# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 32
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/621 "2009-07-19T05:57:12Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > No. The current system sucks. A government-controlled system would suck even worse. The best system would be a one without any government involvement whatsoever. Prices would be set by supply and demand. It works for dentists. Okay, here’s what I don’t understand, in re: your point of view: what government involvement or regulation causes it to be so unprofitable to insure and/or treat so many people without back-breaking costs/premiums passed on to said people? Why would lack of whatever government involvement/regulation cause it to become profitable? With that unprofitability, what would cause companies to fill the demand produced by those people? What would be their motive? Or else, what would keep them from going under and/or having to stave off shareholders/owners angry at the reduced profit? ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/622 "2009-07-19T05:59:50Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > So, you think she doesn’t have epilepsy? Who care if she has epilepsy, or anything else? ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/623 "2009-07-19T06:11:36Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Who care if she has epilepsy, or anything else? You illustrate the sociopathic mindset of the right-winger quite well. Empathy? What’s that? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/624 "2009-07-19T06:16:50Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > LOL. Yes, laugh as much as you want, but you are only a coward for not dealing with the cites that demonstrate that indeed you are only proposing that we should continue limiting the freedom of the American worker. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/625 "2009-07-19T06:27:35Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Who care if she has epilepsy, or anything else? You seem to care, an awful lot, since you’ve derailed this thread into a discussion of Guin almost singlehandedly. Want to talk about the topic at hand? That’d be a nice change from your obsessive nastiness towards Guin on the last 3 or so pages of this thread… but then, your posts would have to have actual content, and you’re just not up to it, are ya? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/626 "2009-07-19T07:19:33Z")
> [@Hyperelastic](#): > > The profit motive tends to reduce prices to the cost of production given a free market. Not saying the health care market is free, but I think you have the wrong idea about profit. The profit motive doesn’t reduce price when they can jack it up and you have no choice but to pay or die. > [@Hyperelastic](#): > > If no companies will insure birth control, there must not be a profitable way to provide that coverage. Or they are owned by right wingers, like just about every large corporation. What makes you think that politics magically goes away outside of the government ? > [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > No. The current system sucks. A government-controlled system would suck even worse. The best system would be a one without any government involvement whatsoever. Prices would be set by supply and demand. Ah, the “Your money or your life” system. Or rather, your money _and_ your life if you want to end the regulation and certification of health care as well. Take the money of desperate people, pocket it, and give them cheap fake medicine that doesn’t work. And lecture them on how it’s their fault when they die. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/627 "2009-07-19T07:25:54Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > What about her parents? Are they destitute? Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses? ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/628 "2009-07-19T10:13:08Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > **Crafter\_Man** – I had two jobs in high school/college. I worked at my first one about two years, the second, three. (A local grocery store and then Kmart) Your typical, after-school jobs. > > And then I worked at my last job **almost three years**. And while I was unemployed, I ALSO did volunteer work at a local hospital, while I looked for a job, AND helped out occassionally up at my father’s funeral home. From [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11115162&postcount=112): > [@](#): > > Yes, as most here know, I too live at home (financial reasons, sadly). **I was unemployed for four fucking years, and then I finally found a job, and then I was laid off after two.** But dammit, if I found a job then, I can find one again, and I’m damned well determined to do so. (Hopefully full time, this time around!) And if you’d like to know what sweet Guinie does in her spare time, just try wading through [this](http://www.giraffeboards.com/showthread.php?t=3298&page=21)snark filled train wreck over at Giraffe’s board. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/629 "2009-07-19T10:19:30Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > My assessment is not based on your present situation. It’s based on nine years (nine \*long \*years) of reading your posts. It’s utterly obvious you’re afraid of the world outside your parents’ home. You find safety and comfort in their basement, and the computer monitor becomes your surrogate world. Instead of being honest about it, though, you try and convince people that it’s not your fault you can’t find a job and live on your own. You have a ton of excuses… there are no jobs, I have a medical condition, I have a disease, my situation is different, etc. > > If I were unemployed, you would not see me posting here. Want to know why? Because every hour I spend in an online forum is an hour I could be looking for a job. This. She’s a fucking child who likes to snark on everyone (“me too, me too!!!”) and hides in an Internet fantasy world. She’ll never grow up until she’s forced to deal with the real world. Which, sadly, may be never if her parents let her live with them forever. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/630 "2009-07-19T11:42:47Z")
> [@leander](#): > > This. She’s a fucking child who likes to snark on everyone (“me too, me too!!!”) and hides in an Internet fantasy world. Says the person who’s using a topic about something totally different to bash someone based on things illrelevant to the thread. :rolleyes: Sorry, what was that about snarking on everyone? ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/631 "2009-07-19T11:53:19Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Says the person who’s using a topic about something totally different to bash someone based on things illrelevant to the thread. :rolleyes: > > Sorry, what was that about snarking on everyone? So we’re going to attack everyone who points out Guin is a liar and a hypocrite just so we can “stay on topic”? Do you even remember what the fucking topic was? And for the record, yes I snark, though nowhere near as much as princess Guin – probably because I have a fucking J-O-B. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/632 "2009-07-19T11:58:24Z")
Bwhahahaha! The irony is killing me. Stop it. Please…hahaha. _sniff_ PS: Wait, is this your “new obsession” after you laid to rest your QED one? :dubious: I mean hey, as long as this topic is now for picking on people for things completely unrelated to the OP/topic…! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/633 "2009-07-19T11:59:39Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Bwhahahaha! The irony is killing me. Stop it. Please..hahaha. _sniff_ I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree until you stop peeing your panties. 😉 ETA: Soaking your panties. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/634 "2009-07-19T12:00:07Z")
> [@leander](#): > > I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree until you stop peeing your panties. 😉 Oh please, the post you quoted was SO five seconds ago. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/635 "2009-07-19T12:04:22Z")
You are welcome to hump my leg once you change your panties, sir. 😛 Until then, let’s stick to Guinie’s pathetic lies, mkay? ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/636 "2009-07-19T12:05:09Z")
My point wasn’t “attacking” you (or anyone else) for attacking Guin, my point is…uh, feel free to attack her all you want but why not make a separate topic for it? If you have a problem with her, here’s an idea: Start a pit thread! Or email/PM her. Or even go to the snackpit and request a new entry be made. Or is it more fun to bash her here where everyone can see? It’s not soley you, it’s Carol and Crafter\_Man too, for doing the same thing. Geez, get a room you three. Start your own topic about how she’s a lazyass if you want. I just really think using another topic to do it in is stupid, retarded (see stupid), petty, immature, oh I could go on and on. But I won’t. And this will be the last post in this topic by me. Cause see, I have the power to just walk away and ignore comments and not give a shit about how other people run their lives. 🙂 Ta, luv! ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/637 "2009-07-19T12:07:46Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > 🙂 Ta, luv! You win the Intranets, last word bitch! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/638 "2009-07-19T12:21:36Z")
**Idle** --After receiving your PM, I agree with your sentiments and apologise for my nastiness – but at the end of the day Guin is a snarky little busybody who lies and lies and lies about her employment and her prospects and her health and spends all day long snarking and surfing. Imagine asking a homeless bum on the streetcorner for advice on your career. She has no business giving anyone advice about anything. Full Stop. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/639 "2009-07-19T13:34:38Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Are you saying the General welfare clause means the government can do anything it wants? If so, then what does “limited government” mean? If you believe the government can do anything it wants, then why even have a constitution? We should get rid of it and allow the government to… do anything it wants. Man… do you even get this whole government thing? How it works, I mean… where it comes from? What it IS?? One thing it is NOT is some Mysterious Black Monolith plopped down from who-knows-where with scary choir chanting as a soundtrack. Sit down a spell and listen real close-like. You see, _ **WE** _ are the government. That is, the U.S. Government is made up of _people_. REAL people. Real _AMERICAN_ people! People like you and me. People from Ohio, even. “Now how does all them people become some Mysterious Black Monolith?” You ask? Whoa!!! Calm down, friend! I’ll back up. See, the Government is _not_ a big mystery… those people… the people I mentioned before? Remember? See, they were _elected_. That’s like… well it means… well, you know when your buddies and you choose teams when you play kickball? Yeah. It’s like that. The Government is made up of people… who are elected… right? Like a kickball team?.. they are _elected_ by other people… folks from all over! Yes, even city folk…!! Yeah! And then, and then they _organize_, these people, to do things for people, and see that everyone is safe and that nooooooobody gets hurt. And the best part is, if they don’t do a good job? Or even if we just don’t like the way they are handling things? Then… THEN, we can elect some other people---- EVEN YOU or ME!!---- to do the job instead!!! So, you see, it’s all up to US!!! And that’s what a Government is! You don’t need to be afraid anymore. Unless you’re afraid that poor folk with no money might get band-aids for their boo-boos! So… how 'bout a hug? …now just put that gun down first… there you go! There you go! WHO’s a big boy, huh? WHO’s a\* big, GOOD,\* boy? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/640 "2009-07-19T13:38:42Z")
> [@leander](#): > > **Idle** --After receiving your PM, I agree with your sentiments and apologise for my nastiness – but at the end of the day Guin is a snarky little busybody who lies and lies and lies about her employment and her prospects and her health and spends all day long snarking and surfing. Imagine asking a homeless bum on the streetcorner for advice on your career. > > She has no business giving anyone advice about anything. Full Stop. The thread discussing the insincerity of “I apologize, but…” is a couple of fora over. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=31) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=33)