# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/661 "2009-07-19T17:29:47Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Additionally, if you go to an ER with a serious emergency, like the severe injuries from a car accident, sure, they can’t turn you away. But they will certainly bill you, and that bill is likely to be the same amount as a college degree would cost you. Five figures, at least. Most people, even people who are careful with their money, don’t have cash like that laying around. Thus, these people are forced to declare bankruptcy. As I said, most Americans think that is wrong and want it to change, so maybe it will. Or they simply don’t pay it, which amounts to the same thing for the rest of us–the costs skyrocket. Every time someone goes to the ER without insurance, the rest of us pay. Since I’m going to pay anyway, I want to pay up front for good care rather than at the back end for poor care. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/662 "2009-07-19T17:41:16Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Who cares? Her father is a funeral director. Surely he can fork over a few dollars for her meds out of his pocket? He does help out, shitheap. And yes, I live at home – rather than go out on the dole. I do MY share around the house, even if it’s not monetary. (BTW, you don’t know what an aura is, do you? That Pit thread was made a year ago, and since then, it’s gotten worse, meaning my meds have been increased. Nor do I recall saying that OCD was worse – cite, por favor? Because it’s fucking not – or at least, not anymore) Epilepsy doesn’t keep me from working (well, except for some jobs, like say a bus driver, naturally!), so I don’t know where you got THAT idea. It keeps me from being COVERED BY HEALTH INSURANCE. Do try and keep up. > [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Why don’t you keep a real job, like the rest of humanity? What, pray tell, is a “real job?” I didn’t even know there was such a thing as a “fake job.” :rolleyes: (Jesus Christ, if I’m so pathetic, why are you so obsessed with me? You sure seem to remember an awful lot of what I’ve said here – more than _I_ have.) As for why people are sticking up for me? I don’t know, maybe, they like me? I’m not, well, a sociopathic shitstain? ETA: I believe we had a poster here die from epilepsy – **Persephone**? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/663 "2009-07-19T17:44:48Z")
You say that like its a bad thing. ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/664 "2009-07-19T17:51:45Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > Who cares? Her father is a funeral director. Surely he can fork over a few dollars for her meds out of his pocket? It is my understanding that insurance is the issue here, not meds. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/665 "2009-07-19T17:55:03Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Or they simply don’t pay it, which amounts to the same thing for the rest of us–the costs skyrocket. Right-- when you declare bankruptcy, you don’t pay it. Ironically, the fact that this happens has probably contributed to why ER care is so damn expensive. > [@](#): > > Every time someone goes to the ER without insurance, the rest of us pay. Since I’m going to pay anyway, I want to pay up front for good care rather than at the back end for poor care. Exactly. If I’m going to pay either way, I’d rather pay for people to stay well than to pay to put Humpty Dumpty back together again, poorly. Guin, my advice is to you is, please stop defending yourself against ad hominem attacks on your personal life. Your personal life is not the issue here. Don’t let them make it the issue because they’ve run out of intelligent things to say about the actual topic at hands. The facts speak for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/666 "2009-07-19T18:11:24Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Right-- when you declare bankruptcy, you don’t pay it. No, I meant without declaring bankruptcy. Some hospitals won’t pursue it beyond a certain point. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/667 "2009-07-19T18:13:43Z")
> [@Crawlspace](#): > > How about a can of shut the fuck up? I think I love you. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/668 "2009-07-19T18:33:00Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > No, I meant without declaring bankruptcy. Some hospitals won’t pursue it beyond a certain point. Really? My friend was in collections when he declared bankruptcy. I’m surprised to hear that they won’t pursue it, take you to court, and/or wreck your credit. They certainly can if they want to. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/669 "2009-07-19T18:41:06Z")
Am I to assume that I won’t be getting that motorcycle? ---
**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/670 "2009-07-19T18:46:33Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > Really? My friend was in collections when he declared bankruptcy. I’m surprised to hear that they won’t pursue it, take you to court, and/or wreck your credit. They certainly can if they want to. Sometimes they will accept a deal, for example, 50 cents on the dollar. Especially if you are paying cash. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/671 "2009-07-19T19:37:00Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Why would private insurance companies provide coverage for people they lose money on? We already see companies refusing to provide coverage for people with pre-existing circumstances. Insurance providers do the stats and eliminate people who might cost money.They are heavy into data mining. They spend a lot of money trying to find ways to deny coverage they are getting paid for. The Companies do not wait until they cost them . I love the free market being an instrument in cutting costs and gaining efficiency argument. If we had a free market system, the companies would compete by lowering prices and offering more ,to gain customers. But they have been only going up in cost, They have been cutting coverage and denying claims. Is this the free market at work:? Nope it is an oligarchy that carved up the market among themselves. The cost of insurance is well ahead of inflation every year. But our system is rated no. 37 in the world. It is getting worse and worse. Where are the amazing free market benefits? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/672 "2009-07-19T20:00:46Z")
> [@Kalhoun](#): > > I think I love you. So what are you so afraid of? (Sorry, sorry, I couldn’t resist!) ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/673 "2009-07-19T20:05:36Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What, pray tell, is a “real job?” It’s shocking that you even have to ask this question, but only in the sense that gambling is shocking in Casablanca. You really don’t get it, do you? A real job is one that lets you be a self-sufficient adult, not relying on your parents, or worse, the taxpayers. You’re well over 30, grow the f up. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/674 "2009-07-19T20:19:02Z")
Somewhere, a cardinal direction is missing its wicked witch… ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/675 "2009-07-19T20:19:06Z")
How very odd. You can say something unspeakably nasty to a stranger, and yet scruple at typing “fuck”. You gave a very curious notion of obscenity. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/676 "2009-07-19T20:24:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > How very odd. You can say something unspeakably nasty to a stranger, and yet scruple at typing “fuck”. You gave a very curious notion of obscenity. Unspeakably nasty? How so? She asked what a real job was, and I told her. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/677 "2009-07-19T20:27:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Nor do I recall saying that OCD was worse – cite, por favor? Because it’s fucking not – or at least, not anymore > **[Your Choice: Mental or Physical Illness](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=451053)** > > If you had to choose between being mentally or physically ill – to relatively similar degrees of severity in each case – which would you choose? In both cases, you would know that you’re ill and would be suffering from it. Also assume that in... > [@Your Choice: Mental or Physical Illness](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-choice-mental-or-physical-illness/433141/18): > > I have suffered mental illness-OCD, and it’s pure hell. > > I also suffer from epilepsy. **I can deal with that far better than the OCD**. Seizures aren’t constant like obsessions are. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/678 "2009-07-19T20:32:01Z")
> [@Crafter\_Man](#): > > [Your Choice: Mental or Physical Illness - In My Humble Opinion - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=451053) With as many posts as she has, it’s no wonder she can’t keep her lies straight. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/679 "2009-07-19T20:33:52Z")
Look above me, it’s a retard sandwich. Lulz. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2009, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/680 "2009-07-19T20:36:56Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > With as many posts as she has, it’s no wonder she can’t keep her lies straight. Some people actually tell the truth about themselves online. I realize that might come as a surprise to you, but it is true. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=35)