# Anything else you motherfuckers need?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/81 "2009-07-16T20:22:40Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Same with all those uninsured unmarried women having babies- I don’t think any thinking person believes in abortion, but where’s the sin in baptizing and smothering them once they get here?

You know how it doesn’t count as birth control if you measure the woman’s cycle to determine when she’s ovulating and/or pull out right before you ejaculate? Well, I hear it doesn’t count as abortion if you push a pregnant woman down the stairs. Then we could gainfully employ some of those lazy welfare slobs as upstanding Christian American stair-pushers.

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/82 "2009-07-16T20:23:33Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> You know how it doesn’t count as birth control if you measure the woman’s cycle to determine when she’s ovulating and/or pull out right before you ejaculate? Well, I hear it doesn’t count as abortion if you push a pregnant woman down the stairs. Then we could gainfully employ some of those lazy welfare slobs as upstanding Christian American stair-pushers.

Lol. But then it’s assault. Maybe you could employ a group of American-top-of-the-staircase-trippers.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/83 "2009-07-16T20:23:37Z")

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Ignorant Thread is ignorant.

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**Author:** ![Claire\_Beauchamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@Claire\_Beauchamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claire_Beauchamp)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/84 "2009-07-16T20:25:52Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> Firefighting was always a civic matter, not business. On the other hand, healthcare and insurance started out private, so it’s become a sacred cow. It’s not status quo, it’s the government actively moving into an area they weren’t in before.

Wrong. Organized firefighting was first done by volunteer groups/clubs, then by insurance companies. Fire fighting organizations paid by the govt are a relatively recent invention, and still there are many areas of the US covered only by volunteer or partial volunteer groups. [Fire insurance mark - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_insurance_marks)

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/85 "2009-07-16T20:28:06Z")

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> [@ashman165](#):
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> I would like a pony stabling facility so that I can charge fees to all those here who wanted the pony. Also, I’d like a car park facility for those who opted for the car.  
> Ash

Since I got rid of our horse just before the horse market crashed, I’d be happy with some pony poop for my garden. Any left over I can post, but you won’t be able to distinguish it from RR’s posts.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/86 "2009-07-16T20:28:33Z")

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> [@Claire\_Beauchamp](#):
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> Wrong. Organized firefighting was first done by volunteer groups/clubs, then by insurance companies. Fire fighting organizations paid by the govt are a relatively recent invention, and still there are many areas of the US covered only by volunteer or partial volunteer groups. [Fire insurance mark - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_insurance_marks)

I stand corrected on the insurance companies, but I knew about the volunteer groups. Hence why I said civic, to cover those groups not doing it for profit.

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**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/87 "2009-07-16T20:30:14Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Since I got rid of our horse just before the horse market crashed, I’d be happy with some pony poop for my garden. Any left over I can post, but you won’t be able to distinguish it from RR’s posts.

This is how economies get started! One guy doles out lands and titles and BAM, it all starts anew.

As a business-oriented capitalist, I have no reservations about where I get the shit to compost what needs it. All that matters is that I keep getting richer, even if I have to stop on the little guy. So, I will accept either pile of shit toward that end. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/88 "2009-07-16T20:31:11Z")

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> [@FallenAngel](#):
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> So not wanting to be robbed at gunpoint, which is what government programs are, since if you don’t pony up they send people with guns to come and take either you or your money, is equal to being a selfish little prick?
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> How’s the view from your livestock pen?

If you don’t like paying taxes, I bet the tax collector in Somalia is not too efficient. You’re invited to go there. If you hate democracy, no one is making you state.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/89 "2009-07-16T20:34:45Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> If you don’t like paying taxes, I bet the tax collector in Somalia is not too efficient. You’re invited to go there. If you hate democracy, no one is making you state.

Yes, I think this is one type of situation where “love it or leave it” might actually apply, since we’re talking about a basic, fundamental principle of the way the government is structured (i.e., people pay taxes to fund things that individuals would not be able to accomplish).

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/90 "2009-07-16T20:35:01Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> Well, I hear it doesn’t count as abortion if you push a pregnant woman down the stairs. Then we could gainfully employ some of those lazy welfare slobs as upstanding Christian American stair-pushers.

Unfortunately, their jobs would soon be outsourced to a Chinese-made missing step.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/91 "2009-07-16T20:37:01Z")

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Only until it gets recalled for too high a lead content.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/92 "2009-07-16T20:47:51Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> (re: eliminating fast food and smokes)
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> Don’t be a fuckwit, please.

😕  
I’m not- I’d be cool living in a world without fast food and smokes. But thanks for chiming in with your useless comment.

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**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/93 "2009-07-16T21:15:42Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> 😕  
> I’m not- I’d be cool living in a world without fast food and smokes. But thanks for chiming in with your useless comment.

As long as you admit you’re a fascist.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/94 "2009-07-16T21:18:40Z")

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> [@ivn1188](#):
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> As long as you admit you’re a fascist.

I think everything should be legal for consenting adults, personally–I just think we ought to be consistent in the way we tax. As long as cigarettes get slapped with a big one because they raise health care costs for everyone, I think fast food should be the same way.

Pay up, fatties!

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/95 "2009-07-16T21:27:41Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> So, it looks like I may be paying for health insurance for a lot of you motherfuckers. Is there anything else I can get you while I’m at it? A brand(!) new(!) car(!) perhaps? Or how about a week in Hawaii?

Um… I like my current car and my pickup just fine, thank you. Although if you could spring for an airplane (just a small one, 50-100k price range, 2-4 seats) that would earn you my eternal gratitude. 😃

> [@](#):
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> I guess you don’t care that goverment health insurance will cost many of you your jobs

My job went bye-bye in November 2007. That threat no longer frightens me.

> [@](#):
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> and will slow investment (meaning worse infrastructure and fewer cool gadgets like iPods etc.).

I don’t own an iPod. I can’t afford it - all my money goes to rent, food, and medical bills.

> [@](#):
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> And increasing the size of the federal government is only a bad thing when we’re talking about Bush’s justice department reading people’s emails, it’s fine when we’re talking about social programs.

Um… yeah.

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> Guess you won’t mind when cigarettes and fast food are made illegal due to the public’s interest in keeping health costs down.

I’ve never smoked. I don’t eat fast food. I can’t afford it. In fact, at the moment most of my food comes the garden in the backyard. So even if that happens I doubt I’d notice.

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> Anyway, you’re welcome.

Any time.

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**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/96 "2009-07-16T21:28:22Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> You elected Obama so he could force people like me to pay for stuff for people like you, and it looks like you may get your wish.

You know what I’d really like? A 90% tax rate for the top bracket like we had in the 1950’s. Even a return to the 50% of the Reagan years would be sweet. Soak the rich, baby!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/97 "2009-07-16T21:31:41Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I think everything should be legal for consenting adults, personally–I just think we ought to be consistent in the way we tax. As long as cigarettes get slapped with a big one because they raise health care costs for everyone, I think fast food should be the same way.

Define “fast food”.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/98 "2009-07-16T21:34:40Z")

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Can someone please tell me what is inherently bad about a big government?

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/99 "2009-07-16T21:36:52Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Define “fast food”.

Anything with more calories than nutritional value (lots of fat and sugar but not a lot of vitamins, protein, fiber, etc.). Basically, the kind of food that contributes to obesity, which is a bigger drain on our health care system than smoking.

Get rid of the smoking tax, and I won’t try to argue for a Fatty McFatfat tax.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2009, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/100 "2009-07-16T21:40:22Z")

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I’ve been thinking about this thread since I first posted a few hours ago and I’ve realized that **Rand Rover** is a very useful tool for social policy – any policy change that makes him mad is probably good for society. We’ll know we’ve hit utopia when he has an aneurysm and drops dead. 😛

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