# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![cwthree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@cwthree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwthree)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1441 "2009-07-24T15:31:12Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > No, and I don’t believe I said anything that could possibly be misconstrued to say I did. You previously cited “driving an SUV,” without other qualifiers, when you characterized someone who behaves in a financially irresponsible manner. I’m not sure how else one _could_ construe it. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1442 "2009-07-24T16:03:38Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Your parents just kicked you out into the world and didn’t care what happened to you? Or did you go back to school later on? > > And so ends page 25 and posting for the night for me. I was married, a homeowner, and an adult–I had just finished my law degree. Why do you think that parents have any financial responsibility for their children once they become adults? That’s certainly not required by any stretch of the imagination. It would have been nice had they helped (and they easily could have) but they absolutely didn’t have to. My husband and I footed the bill. Thankfully, despite my Public Defender’s salary, we’re comfortably upper middle class. It hurt to have to pay all those bills, but it didn’t make or break us by a long shot. But a similar thing happened to a friend of mine the same month–difference is that he’s a waiter/waitstaff supervisor and unmarried. He had to foot the whole twenty grand, and was very close to filing for bankruptcy because of it. He has the attitude of “you can’t squeeze blood from a turnip” and is probably being sued left and right, but has nothing to garnish but tax returns. He’s paying the bills as best he can, but his life has suffered greatly for it. All because he chose to have his appendix burst one day. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1443 "2009-07-24T16:09:49Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Oh for heaven’s sake. How does a woman “fall pregnant”? > > If you knock the vase off of the table, do you say “it broke”, or “I broke it”? > > You seem to think it’s the former, in which case you’re 3 years old. Apparently, you must have missed class the day they explained the concept, “figure of speech.” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1444 "2009-07-24T16:15:29Z")
I move that from now on, \*\*Carol Stream \*\*is required to say, “a woman engaged in vaginal sexual intercourse with a male partner while not using any form of birth control and without her partner using a barrier method, or the birth control they were using failed” every time she talks about a pregnancy. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1445 "2009-07-24T16:18:02Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > Since you’re back, any possibility you could explain why it was OK for you to take other people’s money for your education, but it’s not OK for the government to take your money for other people’s health care. I’m just sure there’s a deep philosophical reason that goes way beyond “The first one benefited me.” I think that a program that could directly benefit everyone that is paid for out of general tax revenues is different than a program that only directly benefits certain people that is paid for with a surtax on certain other people. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1446 "2009-07-24T16:28:12Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > I think that a program that could directly benefit everyone that is paid for out of general tax revenues is different than a program that only directly benefits certain people that is paid for with a surtax on certain other people. UHC would directly benefit everyone and be paid for out of general tax revenue. So glad you’re a supporter! ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1447 "2009-07-24T16:32:13Z")
Did someone send up the Twit Signal again? Why did RR and Carol suddenly rematerialize? Scotty, if you’re up there, beam them back! Beam them BACK! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1448 "2009-07-24T16:34:00Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I move that from now on, \*\*Carol Stream \*\*is required to say, “a woman engaged in vaginal sexual intercourse with a male partner while not using any form of birth control and without her partner using a barrier method, or the birth control they were using failed” every time she talks about a pregnancy. Motion passes by unanimous consent. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1449 "2009-07-24T16:35:07Z")
I dissent! (Sorry, force of habit, really…) ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1450 "2009-07-24T16:43:49Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > And so ends page 25 and posting for the night for me. OMG. She still has 4 more pages to read and respond to, and by then, 4 more pages will have been written. Any thread with curlcoat involved is apparently doomed to go over 40 pages. Maybe the best idea would be for everyone to stop responding to her until she fully catches up. Or just stop responding to her, because she is never, ever going to change one iota of her opinion, but just continue to say that we are stupid, we’re misconstruing her, ask for cites (which she then rejects) but never give any, and brag about how well off she is while still being middle class, and how the rest of us are shiftless losers. Oh yeah, and welfare moms and SUV owners and taxes and those damn Mexicans and blue credit cards with no limits and low interest rates. Blah blah blah. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1451 "2009-07-24T16:59:15Z")
> [@Carol\_Stream](#): > > Oh for heaven’s sake. How does a woman “fall pregnant”? > > If you knock the vase off of the table, do you say “it broke”, or “I broke it”? > > You seem to think it’s the former, in which case you’re 3 years old. “Mistakes were made.” ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1452 "2009-07-24T17:00:44Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Did someone send up the Twit Signal again? Why did RR and Carol suddenly rematerialize? > > Scotty, if you’re up there, beam them back! Beam them BACK! Sorry I was tying to summon batman and the bat slide was switched with the female goldfish slide. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1453 "2009-07-24T17:04:58Z")
> [@Rubystreak](#): > > OMG. She still has 4 more pages to read and respond to, and by then, 4 more pages will have been written. Any thread with curlcoat involved is apparently doomed to go over 40 pages. Maybe the best idea would be for everyone to stop responding to her until she fully catches up. Or just stop responding to her, because she is never, ever going to change one iota of her opinion, but just continue to say that we are stupid, we’re misconstruing her, ask for cites (which she then rejects) but never give any, and brag about how well off she is while still being middle class, and how the rest of us are shiftless losers. The thing I try to keep in mind about **curlcoat** is that she was the woman who was stunned to learn that there are descendants of slaves still living in America today. It helps me to remember to keep my expectations for her very, very low. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1454 "2009-07-24T17:11:37Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > The thing I try to keep in mind about **curlcoat** is that she was the woman who was stunned to learn that there are descendants of slaves still living in America today. It helps me to remember to keep my expectations for her very, very low. She blamed that amazing bit of ignorance on her dreadful public school education. In a later version of the story, she finished her public education in a much better school. But work was required which she couldn’t be bothered to complete; apparently she skipped class a lot, too. Somehow, her family declined to send her to college. And she never tried to continue her education herself. Of course, although a degree is handy, you can broaden your mind considerably without formal education. Read books! Talk to people! Watch some educational TV! Or you can choose to remain ignorant until the day you die. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1455 "2009-07-24T17:47:30Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > UHC would directly benefit everyone and be paid for out of general tax revenue. So glad you’re a supporter! Go look up “directly” and get back to us. Also, a surtax on the “rich” isn’t the same as "general tax revenue, so you fail again. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1456 "2009-07-24T17:53:37Z")
Personally, I don’t care about a surtax on the rich for two reasons: 1 - I’m not rich, so it doesn’t affect me. 2 - If I were rich, I wouldn’t care, because even after the surtax, I’d still be rich. Wealthy people whining about money fucking cracks me up. ---
**Author:** ![Nutty\_Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d07c76/32.png) [@Nutty\_Bunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nutty_Bunny)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1457 "2009-07-24T17:54:23Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Somehow, her family declined to send her to college. They wrote her off as a lost cause. > [@](#): > > And she never tried to continue her education herself. That’s apparent. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1458 "2009-07-24T18:05:05Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Personally, I don’t care about a surtax on the rich for two reasons: > > 1 - I’m not rich, so it doesn’t affect me. > 2 - If I were rich, I wouldn’t care, because even after the surtax, I’d still be rich. > > Wealthy people whining about money fucking cracks me up. :rolleyes: yuk yuk thinking like this is part of the reason you aren’t rich. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1459 "2009-07-24T18:09:58Z")
Or because my father wasn’t Thurston Howell the Third either. Not everyone is Joe the Plumber with his $250,000 imaginary boot-strap businesses. But you may be right. I enjoy the money I make and I work hard for it … but it isn’t the end-all, be-all of my existance. I don’t predicate every single decision I make on some bottom-line as though that is the definition of my existance. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1460 "2009-07-24T18:15:56Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Go look up “directly” and get back to us. Also, a surtax on the “rich” isn’t the same as "general tax revenue, so you fail again. So who exactly wouldn’t benefit from living in a more economically competitive (lower GDP spent on healthcare) country with a healthier population (as measured by infant mortality, lifespan, etc.)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=74)