# Anything else you motherfuckers need?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1601 "2009-07-25T22:51:26Z")

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By Og, did you see that! **Carol Stream** has, by my count, gotten off four funnies in the past three months! And now, she comes up with a zinger! Well, OK, gotta be a little generous in our definition, but still! Great progress is being made, and its clearly all a result of our splendid example!

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1602 "2009-07-25T22:58:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By Og, did you see that! **Carol Stream** has, by my count, gotten off four funnies in the past three months! And now, she comes up with a zinger! Well, OK, gotta be a little generous in our definition, but still! Great progress is being made, and its clearly all a result of our splendid example!

Well, it’s _something_, at least. You have to give credit where credit is due.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1603 "2009-07-25T23:02:57Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> By Og, did you see that! **Carol Stream** has, by my count, gotten off four funnies in the past three months! And now, she comes up with a zinger! Well, OK, gotta be a little generous in our definition, but still! Great progress is being made, and its clearly all a result of our splendid  
> example!

Oh, you misunderstand, my friend. That wasn’t a zinger, I was deadly serious.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2009, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1604 "2009-07-25T23:52:47Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Lemme put it to you in dummy-speak: Rand Rover thinks that he provides more value to society because he services rich people, and they can afford to pay him teh big bux. Those of us who provide services to hundreds or thousands of people, regardless of their income level or ability to pay, because our services are essential to the functioning of society as a whole, provide less value to society. How do I know this? He makes more money than we do. Got it now?

This is correct.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1605 "2009-07-26T00:10:30Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> This is correct.

So let’s forget about value for a moment, and talk about “worth.” Assuming you’re correct, and have enormous value to society because you’ve got a line of work that rich assholes are willing to pay you well for, to keep the peasants off their property, do you understand how, to everyone but your rich masters, you’re a worthless piece of putrifying shit?

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1606 "2009-07-26T00:13:46Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> So let’s forget about value for a moment, and talk about “worth.” Assuming you’re correct, and have enormous value to society because you’ve got a line of work that rich assholes are willing to pay you well for, to keep the peasants off their property, do you understand how, to everyone but your rich masters, you’re a worthless piece of putrifying shit?

What I understand is that you are a worhtless human under any measure. Now make sure that pizza gets here in thirty minutes or less, bitch!

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1607 "2009-07-26T00:15:04Z")

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You can eat your pizza out of my ass when I’m done with it.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1608 "2009-07-26T00:18:43Z")

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When you are done with the pizza or when you are done with your ass?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1609 "2009-07-26T00:20:22Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Now make sure that pizza gets here in thirty minutes or less, bitch!

Now is that a wise attitude toward someone who makes your food? For a rich guy, you sure aren’t very smart.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1610 "2009-07-26T00:20:50Z")

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Seriously, any time I’m tempted to consider, as a reasonable part of the conversation, any taxation ideas from right-wingers of any stripe, all I have to do is remember that all they are is less direct, more carefully shaded versions of RR, and I really don’t have any qualms about taxing them until their hair bleeds. Thanks for providing me with the resolve to disregard your kind as fellow humans–you remind me every day that they wouldn’t piss on me if I were on fire, and that helps me curb my own natural compassion and consideration for them, of which they deserve none and get little, thanks to you, you, you.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1611 "2009-07-26T00:26:48Z")

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But that’s a good thing. Your “natural” compassion is over-developed and should be curbed

No go contribute something to society instead of masturbating three times a day as is your wont.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1612 "2009-07-26T00:27:49Z")

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Also, see this thread: [Chidope 2009? - Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share - Straight Dope Message Board](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=525859)

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1613 "2009-07-26T00:37:49Z")

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You’re right, it’s all about numbers. If the Democrats can get enough votes to tax your corpuscles, I’ll feel better and better than I did yesterday about their doing so, and when the dudes in suits come on TV whining about “Is this fair, that I should work so hard and earn so much and have the government confiscate it like this?” I’ll laugh and flip open a beer, and go “Fuck 'em. Tax ‘em more, the worthless swine. They all think like RR anyway, and so get none of my consideration ever. What a tool I was to think of them as human beings! Yeah, pay for my health care, bitch, pay for my welfare, pay for my three dozen kids’ food stamps!”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1614 "2009-07-26T00:44:03Z")

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The thing about taxing the rich is, they hate being poor more than just about anything, so they will work like dogs to keep their accustomed lifestyle. I’ll bet we could take 80% of their income, and those busy little beavers would just make more. Win/win.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1615 "2009-07-26T00:56:37Z")

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> [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](#):
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> You’re right, it’s all about numbers. If the Democrats can get enough votes to tax your corpuscles, I’ll feel better and better than I did yesterday about their doing so, and when the dudes in suits come on TV whining about “Is this fair, that I should work so hard and earn so much and have the government confiscate it like this?” I’ll laugh and flip open a beer, and go “Fuck 'em. Tax ‘em more, the worthless swine. They all think like RR anyway, and so get none of my consideration ever. What a tool I was to think of them as human beings! Yeah, pay for my health care, bitch, pay for my welfare, pay for my three dozen kids’ food stamps!”

And then they’ll decide they’re done paying for all that, and where will you be? Still in our shitty apartment with your dick in your hand.

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**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1616 "2009-07-26T00:57:39Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> The thing about taxing the rich is, they hate being poor more than just about anything, so they will work like dogs to keep their accustomed lifestyle. I’ll bet we could take 80% of their income, and those busy little beavers would just make more. Win/win.

Thanks for showing the violence inherent in the system. Also, you fail at life.

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**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1617 "2009-07-26T00:59:27Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> This is correct.

So you do owe me an apology, moron, since I apparently understood what you said perfectly well, but you didn’t like how it sounded when someone else said it, so you called me names like a 7th grader.

And you’re wrong about what society values, and what constitutes providing value to society. But then, we should just add that to the long list of things you’re wrong about.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1618 "2009-07-26T01:00:15Z")

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> [@Rubystreak](#):
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> Lemme put it to you in dummy-speak: Rand Rover thinks that he provides more value to society because he services rich people, and they can afford to pay him teh big bux. Those of us who provide services to hundreds or thousands of people, regardless of their income level or ability to pay, because our services are essential to the functioning of society as a whole, provide less value to society. How do I know this? He makes more money than we do. Got it now?

> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> This is correct.

So even leaving aside all liberal feel-good douchiness, and coming from a strictly atheistic materialistic standpoint - are you telling me that earning more money (in relative terms, adjusted for inflation) than Nikola Tesla, Alexander Fleming, and Marie Curie combined means that you provide more value to society than them? Really?

All I see is a tautology (income = societal value; societal value = income) presented as ideology.

And that’s not even getting into your Bachs, Caravaggios, or Gautama Buddhas.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1619 "2009-07-26T01:00:21Z")

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> [@Rand\_Rover](#):
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> Thanks for showing the violence inherent in the system. Also, you fail at life.

So long as the violence cuts both ways, I’m good with that. I don’t bring a knife to a gunfight.

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2009, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1620 "2009-07-26T01:02:43Z")

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Oh, and **curlcoat** - I’m not going to reply to your reply to my reply to your…

You win. Congrats.

Now make me a sandwich, bitch.

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