# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 95
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1881 "2009-07-29T15:33:10Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Designated driver it is, in case we need to travel elsewhere to get smokes or liver transplants. I don’t have a driver’s license, either. (Never did–I’ve driven a car exactly once in my life.) > [@SteveG1](#): > > Is there some Secret Chicken Police out there to stop me? > > NO ONE CAN STOP ME! MWAH HA HA HA HAAAAAA 😃 Sir, this is the Secret Chicken Police. Will you please step out of the thread? I’m afraid you’ll have to come with us for… questioning. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1882 "2009-07-29T15:51:26Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ender, the fact that a program would benefit me (or everyone or anyone) is an insufficient reason for the US federal government to enact that program. Rather, the US fed gov should stay within its limited sphere of protecting us from enemies and other such stuff (and by enemies I mean terrorists, not diabetes or whatever). A while ago, you said it was OK for you to accept money from the gov’t to go to college because it was potentially available for everyone. Given that you’ve now decided that “everyone benefits” is no longer a sufficient reason to justify a program, could you explain your new reason why it was OK for you to take money from other people for your education, but why it’s not OK for people to take your money for health care. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1883 "2009-07-29T15:54:22Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > …Sir, this is the Secret Chicken Police. Will you please step out of the thread? I’m afraid you’ll have to come with us for… questioning. “Why did the Secret Chicken cross the road?” “To get to the other side? Please don’t hit me again…” ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1884 "2009-07-29T15:58:19Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > I don’t have a driver’s license, either. (Never did–I’ve driven a car exactly once in my life.) > > Sir, this is the Secret Chicken Police. Will you please step out of the thread? I’m afraid you’ll have to come with us for… questioning. You’ll never take me alive, copper 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1885 "2009-07-29T16:17:48Z")
> [@Lightnin](#): > > Prove it. No u (re obamacare). ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1886 "2009-07-29T16:39:31Z")
> [@42fish](#): > > A while ago, you said it was OK for you to accept money from the gov’t to go to college because it was potentially available for everyone. Given that you’ve now decided that “everyone benefits” is no longer a sufficient reason to justify a program, could you explain your new reason why it was OK for you to take money from other people for your education, but why it’s not OK for people to take your money for health care. Ya gotta love the type of poster always yearning for another poster to be inconsistent on something. Anyway, I think there is no contradiction in choosing to benefit from a government program that I don’t think the government should do in the first place. They are independent analyses. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1887 "2009-07-29T16:45:56Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I’d go so far as to say if you can’t compartmentalize people’s political views and their personalities, you’re cutting yourself off from a variety of good people who could be your friends. I’m as socially liberal as they come, but the majority of my friends lean conservative. > > I’ve been to three Dope activities, and I liked everyone I met. If you honestly think it has anything to do with **Rand** ’s political views, and NOT his personality, then you’re definitely living up to your user name. There are quite a few people here I’m friendly with who are conservative – yet, unlike our Ayn-Worshipping buddy here, they aren’t assholes. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1888 "2009-07-29T16:50:40Z")
Perhaps, but I find that somebody’s online persona bears little resemblance to who they are in real life. I suppose you could argue that who they are online is “who they really are”, but if that were the case then I’d expect to find far more racists and necrophiliacs and other assorted weirdos here. For all his survival-of-the-fittest talk, I bet RR has helped an old lady cross the street at least once. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1889 "2009-07-29T16:54:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > For all his survival-of-the-fittest talk, I bet RR has helped an old lady cross the street at least once. 😉 Phyllis Schlaffly doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1890 "2009-07-29T16:56:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > For all his survival-of-the-fittest talk, I bet RR has helped an old lady cross the street at least once. 😉 Well he would have, but by the time he had finished negotiating the price, some damn boy scout had come along and done it for free, thus undercutting the market and leading to overconsumption of street crossing services by elderly women. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1891 "2009-07-29T17:12:01Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The WSJ has a great editorial today written by a British doctor re: the nonexistence of a right to health care. > > Last line is: “There is no right to health care–any more than there is a right to chicken Kiev every second Thursday of the month.” I came in here to ask if **Rand Rover** ’s name was Theodore Dalrymple. That editorial scares me. The bit about “Why _shouldn’t_ we let people die in the streets?” turns my stomach. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1892 "2009-07-29T17:17:02Z")
> [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](#): > > I came in here to ask if **Rand Rover** ’s name was Theodore Dalrymple. > > That editorial scares me. The bit about “Why _shouldn’t_ we let people die in the streets?” turns my stomach. You missed the point of that part of the article. He’s saying that it is not necessary to recognize a right to health care to say that the government shouldn’t let people die in the streets. IOW, other concerns besides a right to health care can animate a program that prevents people dying in the streets. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1893 "2009-07-29T17:18:31Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > The WSJ has a great editorial today… This is, on virtually any day you could name, an incorrect statement. The _WSJ_ has some of the best reporters in the United States. The writers on its Op-Ed pages, on the other hand, are generally sociopaths of some sort. I’m not surprised you think it’s great. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1894 "2009-07-29T17:19:17Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Written by “[Theodore Dalrymple](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Daniels_(psychiatrist))”–retired psychiatrist & Professional Curmudgeon. **Starving Artist** , is that you? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1895 "2009-07-29T17:20:26Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > IOW, other concerns besides a right to health care can animate a program that prevents people dying in the streets. Yes, such as “who will clean up the mess? Ensure that these men die in a less conspicuous area, please.” ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1896 "2009-07-29T17:23:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ender, the fact that a program would benefit me (or everyone or anyone) is an insufficient reason for the US federal government to enact that program. Rather, the US fed gov should stay within its limited sphere of protecting us from enemies and other such stuff (and by enemies I mean terrorists, not diabetes or whatever). You know, this at least is a logical argument and I can understand your viewpoint. Unfortunately (OK…really, fortunately) I disagree completely with it. So do a lot of people. I don’t like a bloated government any more than you do but we wildly disagree on what the role of the government should be and I don’t think I’ll be able to convince you of my viewpoint anytime soon. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1897 "2009-07-29T17:27:47Z")
**Rand** , would you be in favor of a 95% estate tax? ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1898 "2009-07-29T17:31:03Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > You’ll never take me alive, copper 🙂 The Secret Chicken Police have no problem with that if you won’t… squawk. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1899 "2009-07-29T17:34:28Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > Written by “[Theodore Dalrymple](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Daniels_(psychiatrist))”–retired psychiatrist & Professional Curmudgeon. I prefer the [other Anthony Daniels](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Daniels) myself. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1900 "2009-07-29T17:51:00Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Ya gotta love the type of poster always yearning for another poster to be inconsistent on something. > > Anyway, I think there is no contradiction in choosing to benefit from a government program that I don’t think the government should do in the first place. They are independent analyses. But you choose to use something you consider wrong, how does that not make you spineless whore, and a hypocritical piece of trash? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=94) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=96)