# Anything else you motherfuckers need? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 16, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231 "2009-07-16T16:51:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1921 "2009-07-30T01:20:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nah, “liberal douche” just leaves me with a nice, fresh feeling that the others don’t. Now that was funny 😃 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1922 "2009-07-30T01:23:10Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > Citation, please, that **Rand Rover** has ever asserted that he is not those things? > > Don’t want you wasting your energy knocking down straw men, after all. That is a good point. However if doesn’t practice what he preaches what does that say about what he preaches? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1923 "2009-07-30T01:36:09Z")
Tell you what The Tao’s Revenge. If you make a prima facie case that I am being hypocritical, then I’ll respond to it. Before that, you aren’t worth the time. A prima facie case should include at least a definition of the term “hypocritical,” a description of the relevant facts, and an analysis of how the facts meet the definition. Note, I’ll only respond if The Tao’s Revenge does this, nobody else (unless I change my mind). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1924 "2009-07-30T03:12:23Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Nah, “liberal douche” just leaves me with a nice, fresh feeling that the others don’t. It may feel fresh, but it still smells like three day old flounder. > [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Note, I’ll only respond if The Tao’s Revenge does this, nobody else (unless I change my mind). Pussy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1925 "2009-07-30T05:27:21Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Tell you what The Tao’s Revenge. If you make a prima facie case that I am being hypocritical, then I’ll respond to it. Before that, you aren’t worth the time. A prima facie case should include at least a definition of the term “hypocritical,” a description of the relevant facts, and an analysis of how the facts meet the definition. > > Note, I’ll only respond if The Tao’s Revenge does this, nobody else (unless I change my mind). [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocritical](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocritical) \*hyp⋅o⋅crite   /ˈhɪpəkrɪt/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [hip-uh-krit] Show IPA Use hypocritical in a Sentence –noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. 2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.\* Example: building your education, and by extension, career using government programs. Then complaining that they’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1926 "2009-07-30T12:24:08Z")
Dude, you just copied and pasted a definition and then laid out the facts. You missed the part where you relate the facts to the definition, ie, the actual meat of the argument where you show your reasoning. You just put a definition on top of an assertion, which does not add up to an argument. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1927 "2009-07-30T22:36:12Z")
No vote until October. Obama and his band of liberal douches lose this round in their ongoing effort to douchify the country. ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1928 "2009-07-30T22:55:25Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > No vote until October. Obama and his band of liberal douches lose this round in their ongoing effort to douchify the country. Not sure if this is douchetastic or douchetacular. Certainly not doucheriffic. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1929 "2009-07-30T23:03:54Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > Probably should stay out of the closeup seats - they tend to be messy… I should hope so. The idea of _sanitary_ napkin sandwiches is really just too horrible to contemplate. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1930 "2009-07-30T23:08:14Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > No vote until October. Obama and his band of liberal douches lose this round in their ongoing effort to douchify the country. Does this mean that it’s too late to take you up on your offer? 'Cos I could use a new set of tires on my Windstar. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1931 "2009-07-30T23:50:34Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I should hope so. The idea of _sanitary_ napkin sandwiches is really just too horrible to contemplate. :eek: ewwwwwwww (no barfing emoticon??) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1932 "2009-07-31T00:27:34Z")
Ketchup, anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1933 "2009-07-31T01:36:02Z")
> [@Harborwolf](#): > > Not sure if this is douchetastic or douchetacular. Certainly not doucheriffic. For liberal douches, it’s a complete douchetastrophe. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1934 "2009-07-31T02:11:18Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > Please, as **mhendo** did, distinguish between the reporters and the editorial pages. The reporting of both papers is superb. The editorial writers reflect the opinions of the owners(I presume). 'Kay. Thanks for reminding me. I mostly read the op-ed pages, so I sometimes forget about the rest of the newspaper. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1935 "2009-07-31T02:39:52Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > For liberal douches, it’s a complete douchetastrophe. Not sure I like “douchetastrophe,” but it is better than “douchesaster.” I wouldn’t even say it’s much of a bad thing at all. There’s no good reason to rush a program like this, and we could’ve wound up with something worse than no program at all. I’m biased though being one of the unwashed masses with a fake job and no health insurance, unless eating apples counts. Then I’m good. ---
**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1936 "2009-07-31T17:07:39Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Note, I’ll only respond if The Tao’s Revenge does this, nobody else (unless I change my mind). They have PMs for this, moron. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1937 "2009-07-31T17:09:46Z")
Guests can send PMs? ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1938 "2009-07-31T18:24:48Z")
> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#): > > They have PMs for this, moron. I thought I’d let everyone benefit from seeing TTR’s inability to construct an argument. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1939 "2009-07-31T18:27:23Z")
Be more effective if you offered some sort of contrast. Rush Limbaugh calling Mike Moore “fatso” misses the mark. ---
**Author:** ![cwthree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@cwthree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cwthree)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231/1940 "2009-07-31T18:37:31Z")
> [@curlcoat](#): > > If you want to pick that nit, you go right ahead. I’m not nitpicking. You’re the one who dismissed a perfectly good response by claiming that it didn’t apply to “real jobs.” Don’t make statements if you’re not prepared to support them. > [@curlcoat](#): > > As I said, don’t care what you wish to believe. If you experiences don’t include having to eat napkin sandwiches and live in unheated houses on the Canadian border, then maybe you can’t understand what “busy trying to stay alive” means. “Napkin sandwiches?” Clearly, no one has ever had it worse than you. > [@curlcoat](#): > > Usually at the expense of others. If you have noticed, the reoccuring theme here is to get people back to the idea of taking care of themselves. Please support this. On what basis do you assert that most people who put themselves through school do so “at the expense of others?” > [@curlcoat](#): > > Ah, so then working my way up from mail clerk to $35,000 annually was a lack of foresight and ambition? Thirty-five grand annually isn’t exactly big money, and certainly not what I’d expect from someone who worked at the same place for 35 years. It sounds more like you advanced through a series of pay grades and modest promotions. Hard work - yes. But nothing you’ve said about your work suggests that you had any kind of plans for advancement. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-else-you-motherfuckers-need/503231.md?page=98)