Isn’t it ivn’s turn to answer for you?
Don’t bother. It’s obvious he doesn’t have anything.
How can you say that about him?
Damn, that was so clever you stunned me into silence for about an hour. I think I’m better now.
I’m just glad objectivism doesn’t rely on diletantes like Rover, though I guess they are useful in spreading the word even if they don’t fully understand it.
Bullshit. Slavery in mentioned right in the constitution, from a clause about the trans-Atlantic slave trade to counting a slave as 3/5’s of a person for official purposes - have you even read the constitution you worship so much?
The US was founded on freedom for some - for others it continued to be a matter of being chattel until 1865.
Right…:rolleyes:
Well, I’m the stupid mother fucker that got you pay for my medical benefits. So I don’t feel so stupid right now, sucker.
I would say that I am half joking about that last bit, but you arte beyond reason. The fact that you can’t even acknowledge how silly your statement about about going to the movies is,…well, lets just say I won’t expend my time on you unless its for my my own amusement, yoyo.
Excellent question. Damn shame the Randroid won’t answer it.
Personally, I believe that a wide-spread biological attack will have a far greater impact on this country than it would on any country with a national health care system. I’m baffled at how a for-profit system could handle a huge number of uninsured people. I suspect that a national health care system would have to be built in a very short period of time and we will save a huge amount by building it ahead of time.
Bro, I like Heinlein as much as the next guy, but you are taking it way too far. I suppose next you’ll suggest that everyone move away from the huge population centers and spread out a bit more to better survive a nuclear attack?
And then we fought a war to free those slaves, and went thru quite a bit of upheaval to get them equal rights, and now you want to stick them back in slavery? Is it OK to you because it won’t be just black people or something?
Well, if any of those WMD smuggled into Syria from Iraq get into the wrong hands…
No. That would be wrong, won’t stoop so low. But its a close call…
And you point is…?
What’s wrong with a hospital making a profit??
Do you work? Do you make a profit?
I think the point is that it’s unseemly to be making a profit off of people’s illness; that health care should be a non-profit industry.
What I find is that this is only 38%. Do you have a better cite than what I’ve found?
Do you ever make any goddam sense ? Wait, don’t answer that.
If she’s of a mind afterwards, I’d really fancy a nice blowjob.
No pony for me thanks.
To intelligent people, yes. Particularly those who do not jump to conclusions.
Bah this a horrid analogy. It’s incredibly wrong headed, and makes light of the plight real slaves suffer.
When paying taxes for social services is as bad as working a hard day in the sun picking “master’s” cotton while “master” rapes your 13 year old daughter, and you can’t do anything about it unless you want to be brutally beaten or worse, then we can talk.
It also makes light of plight of real modern slaves. When paying taxes is as bad as spending your childhood chained to unsafe machinery in a shoe factory, because you can be replaced fair cheaper then making your machine safe would be, or your body being sold for sex against your will, then we can talk.
Before I got married to a sick person, I sounded a lot like Rand Rover and Crafter Man.
Then the bills started coming. Thousands of dollars a month so that I could have my husband alive. Sixty thousand dollars in debt at its peak. When we married, his medications cost more than our income. And we had insurance.
He lived to be 48 years old.
His life wasn’t a luxury.
Before I got married, I didn’t understand it. I guess I thought that sort of illness didn’t happen near my life. I guess I thought the bills would magically disappear. No, that doesn’t make sense, but I can’t make it make sense any longer. All I can do is look back on that person and recognize her profound ignorance.
I don’t want the same thing to happen to anyone, ever again, to stay up nights worrying that you won’t be able to afford to get the heart medication refilled, that you won’t be able to pay the mortgage, that your loved ones need to go to the doctor, to the hospital, to the dentist, to the optometrist, that you loved ones are dying in front of you, falling apart, and you are left begging doctors to find less expensive treatments, you are left begging for alternatives to open heart surgery or hundred-dollar medications for years until you finally lose everything and your loved one dies on the floor of your kitchen.
And we had insurance. By god, we had it good.
Some of us have to learn the hard way. We can’t feel it until it happens to us. We can’t understand until it’s our lives being affected.
I have profound respect for those who didn’t have to live it to get it. Pity the rest of us, okay?
Actually you do have a right to food assistance if you’re too poor to afford it.
And my roommate was denied food assistance because I currently buy food for both of us. So it’s not like they just hand out stamps to anyone who asks, which seems to be the constant refrain of the right.