Lets see, so far your position shows that you ignore that many American families with pre-existing conditions on many occasions, have to go into bankruptcy thanks to the current system.
Just by taking that into account, it is impossible to say that we are smart when in other developed countries families are free from that possibility.
I was wrong, I admit it. I should have said “certain pre-existing conditions”–I’ll concede there may be some pre-existing conditions that will preclude any insurance whatsoever.
Right health insurance, of course. And no, a doctor won’t refuse them care – but the whole point of this argument, shithead, is that NOT EVERYONE IS ABLE TO BUY INSURANCE. And for those that can’t, they’re going broke or they can’t afford basic care. SOME of them are dying.
As for insurance being available for pre-existing conditions, I’d like a cite for that, please. :dubious:
(And being called “stupid as fuck” by you is pretty much a compliment)
Thank you.
You’re going to have to explain how UHC would not “provide for the general welfare of all people equally, regardless of their individual circumstances and individual decisions”, because I’m aftraid I’m not seeing it.
The Constitutional argument I find weak as well - all kinds of crazy shit in there originally that has been amended, either to eliminate bad ideas or establish new rights.
Well, then, they die, don’t they? Problem solved! Trouble with you liberals, you make things too complicated!
I’m afraid not even the courts will agree that the current plan being discussed is illegal.
No, as a protest poster at a school once said: "When will the military have to have a bake sale to buy a new jet? ‘’
Schools are still having bake sales to get money to buy library books and computers and other equipment and supplies.
I do count freedom from want and fear as the most important thing for the less wealthy American worker, so Yes.
Um, yes it would. Everyone would get health insurance, regardless of their individual circumstances and individual decisions.
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I’ve correct his syntax to make it simple enough for you: “That is ok. It is clear that very few care about your views.”
¿Comprendes?
Uh, well, the thread title? I mean, seems to me, uh, that is…never mind.
Crafter_Man doesn’t think public libraries are useful, either. Even with Universal Health Care, I’m afraid we wouldn’t be able to cure his problems.
He’s able to bend that amendment about “well regulated militias” to mean that he ought to be able to stockpile guns & ammo for his own personal use. Otherwise, he’s a Strict Constructionist!
It reminds me of the warnings issued by the guards in The Running Man.
“Warning! Warning #14! Second warning!”.
Yipes.
Ah. Comprendo. But that is precisely what I am ranting about. Many people feel that it is ok to take money from me and my wife and children so that they can provide for themselves and their family. Well fuck them.
Does your wife know about your promiscuous fantasies?
Or do you have an open marriage? (What’s she up to tonight? Do the kids all look like you?)
I repeat: “It is clear that very few care about your views.”
Well said, Comrade Stalin! (“No man. No problem.”)
Are you so dense that you are ignoring that they feel it is ok because is better for all to be free from fear and want?
You are also ignoring that many people are willing to give the money to make this possible for all Americans.
There is a way to get health insurance, pre-existing condition, or not. It’s called getting a job. I know that’s a foreign concept for you…but it’s true.
Why is that someone else’s problem? Healthcare is a service provided by another person. Why should they be forced to do it for no compensation? I know your answer: “Oh, they’ll get paid. We’ll just take the money from someone else by force.” That’s theft.
You have experience in that area? Come to think of it, you do look a lot like the provider in the 2 Girls 1 Cup video.
Not all jobs offer insurance. Especially ones that an unskilled 20-something can get.