If you’ll reread my post you’ll see that I was asking Rubystreak to comment on a position which she put forth. One which contradicts what I think is a more sensible solution.
You’re right, fair enough.
Still, I think you misconstrued her post, or at least there’s two different interpretations. While you were concerned for the rich in your response, I think she was more concerned for the poor who can’t afford health insurance. Everyone’s entitled to the same basic level of health insurance, though that doesn’t mean those with money can’t buy better.
Just to clarify, I wasn’t concerned for anyone. I was/am just trying to see how closely what she wrote reflects her actual position. Before I challenge her on it I thought I’d ask for clarification. I expect (hope) that she might have wrote it too quickly or something.
Nope, not MickeyD’s, or BK, or any of them. I look on Monster all the time – like I said, most of it’s stuff that you need a degree in accounting, or nursing, or something of that nature. And as I said, I’m limitted as far as being able to travel – I can’t drive, naturally. The two service jobs I HAD, I obtained while in school. It took me something around three years to find my last job. (Or was it four, I can’t remember – but no doubt the rest of you will!)
And in the meantime, I did volunteer work, and odd jobs here and there (babysitting, helping out at the funeral home)
I can’t remember the last time I went to the doctor for a regular check-up. I have a doctor’s appointment tomorrow – with my neurologist. I pay partly with my unemployment, part from my folks.
The last time I was insured? I was in college. That’s ten years ago.
(And no, I’m not insured – it’s all out of pocket. My father pays now, but when I was working, I was paying for my own meds out of pocket as well.
(Or when I DID see a job that was affiliated with the History Center, but it was in Ohio – and didn’t pay enough for me to move there. Grrrrrr)
That and all they’re doing is
a.) making themselves look like a bunch of nutjobs and b.) driving up the cost of ammunition. My uncles and my cousins (all hunters and gun owners themselves!) were talking about this idiotic mentality at our last family get together.
IF we’re lucky…
(Mind you, I am all for responsible, rational gun-owners. Key word being rational. People with common sense, who don’t think that the government is planning on storming their basements to take away their butter knives, or whatever)
As for those who have insurance…well, things don’t always work out the way they plan
Sha na na na sha na na na na.!
Please point to the posts where anyone is advocating for universal coverage of procedures that are not medically necessary. I must have missed the “free boob jobs for teenage sluts” portion of the thread.
I’d just like to note that, despite an immediate urge to do so, I had the good grace to refrain from the above…
However, since you brought it up, I would just like to note for the record that I am totally in favor of free boob jobs for teenage sluts.
Duly noted, sir. * adds gold star to jayjay’s chart *
You wouldn’t be, if you saw the kind of boob jobs you can expect from socialized medicine.
Two words: Play-Doh.
Play-Doh boobs would actually be fun. I’d bet it would be something more along the lines of Jell-O in Ziploc bags. Only without the name brands–so, gelatin deserts inside of zipper storage bags.
Wouldn’t it be cheaper to inject some sort of slut hormone into chicks that already have nice tits? We have to look at cost saving measures for health care reform.
In that case, it would probably be cheaper in the short term to get men and lesbians drunk enough to think every chick they see is a slut with nice hooters.
A good shot of quicklime to the eyes of anyone attracted to women would also render them incapable of visually verifying the hotness of the slut titties. Said slut could them be outfitted with a re-usable false front with eminently honkable breasts, a prosthetic which could easily be shared among a clique of sluts.
He was picking that up from my subconscious. I apologize.
-Joe
I’m sure they won’t answer this, but I am surprised that Rand Rover and Crafter_Man accept the whole concept of insurance in the first place. Don’t they realize that the money they or their employers pay for medical insurance is being paid out, right this minute, to other people? It’s not as if they collect the money and hold it in special Rand Rover or Crafter_Man accounts to be disbursed to back to them if they get sick. If they have coverage from a large insurance company, that means millions of other people will get their money. Hell, if they’re healthy their whole lives and die of an accident, they’ll have paid all this money and not gotten one fucking penny back that they’ve paid!
So, why is the above acceptable, but including the rest of us - in a much larger actuarial pool and with lower administrative costs - unacceptable. One would assume such God-like, rugged individualists would have saved their money and wisely invested it so they could pay for any necessary medical procedure out of pocket.
Is that akin to marmalade skies?
And that’s great for you. Now, what percentage of people who start a business in your area manage to succeed and how many crash and burn? One success story doesn’t mean the other nine failed because they deserved it.
Stuff like UHC and other domestic programs isn’t about the people who managed to make it, whether it was because daddy was well-off enough to cover them or because they had the godlike prescience to become the world’s number one tax accountant. It’s about the poor people who, for some reason, fall through the cracks.
-Joe
I don’t think NinetyWt’s account was much of a success story, as far as health insurance is concerned.
They addressed this by saying that they were in their health insurance plans of their own free will and that they could pick and choose another plan if the one they are in doesn’t work. As if. There aren’t very many people who have a lot of choice about which plan they have, if they can get coverage at all.