I didn’t say all of them. Let me rephrase: have you ever had a client that most people would consider wealthy, who paid no federal income tax in any one tax year? Yes, or No?
curlcoat, you click the little Multi Quote button on every post that you want to reply to. It will turn red, to indicate that that post is marked. Then when you hit the regular Reply button, all of the posts that you have multi-quoted should have their quoted material show up in the reply box.
Gee whiz. More Ayn Rand philosophy. What a shock. I am aghast.
You have to love a philosophy which accuses someone willing to pony up a little more so that others, not only he, can value their jobs and the families (hereafter referred to as fucking “society”, you pin head) of being the selfish one over the one who’s sole purpose in life is to own the most shit, thus making jobs for the peons to quibble over.
Another very good point. And lots of them are probably “negative taxpayers.”
Half of Americans don’t pay taxes at all (or get the EITC), and yet people like Fear Itself is all up in arms thinking that rich people don’t pay taxes. If rich people didn’t pay taxes, then essentially no taxes would be paid, because poor people sure as hell don’t pay them.
Yes, lots of them. For a very obvious and non-abusive reason, which you will probably never figure out.
(HINT: The U.S. federal income tax is imposed on “taxable income,” which is the excess of gross income over deductions. If you don’t have taxable income in a year, you don’t pay tax in that year.)
You still don’t understand what money is. I guess you decide at random how much to pay for something (“oh, that’s a nice shirt, I’d be willing to pay $120,00 for that!”).
A factoid which you have apparently pulled straight out off your ass.
This response makes little to no sense. This is telling me how your job benefits you, not how it benefits society. Obviously, a high income is good for you. How is it good for society?
Do those rules apply to low income earners as well? You seem to disdain the 50% who pay no taxes, yet according to the same rules, they have no taxable income either. Why don’t your rich clients who avoid taxes get the same snark you aim at “poor” people?
Oh, come on, Carol! Did you pull that out of your ass?
What makes you think 70-90% of the posters on the SDMB pay no income tax?
I don’t feel like googling it. But I didn’t just make it up. I’m actually underplaying it a bit (I think I read that only some very low percentage of millionaires ever got even $10,000 from their parents). But just think I’m completely making it up if it makes you feel better.
Other people in society decide how much my services are worth to them, and they pay me accordingly.
Look, let’s stop talking about me. Who do you think provides more value to society, Radiohead or the average long-haul truck driver?
Holy SHIT! It’s TRUE!!!
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Follow the links - curlcoat didn’t know most African-Americans are descended from slaves! My god, just when you think the woman has plumbed the depths of Teh Stupid she opens up a whole 'nother abyss worth!
I think this is the first in the post series referred to. The whole thread is here.
What are you talkinga about? I don’t “disdain” anybody, I’m just laying the facts on you. And the reason the bottom 50% don’t pay tax is largely because of refundable tax credits (like the EITC), but deductions do play a part.
You are losing track of the conversation. All I said was that lots of my wealthy clients don’t pay tax in a given tax year. You wanted a yes or no, and you got it, the answer’s yes. So what’s your point, bub?
Look, I have no dog in this fight, I was never aware of the existence of a creature called “curlcoat” until today. But, I read where you said:
and I followed the link and read curlcoat say this:
Broomstick, do you not see the difference between what you said and what curlcoat said?
Why? You’re the one using yourself as an example of someone who benefits society.
I’ll assume that Radiohead is a musical group that makes big bucks. (Correct me if I’m wrong.) I have no hesitation in asserting that any long-haul truck driver has more value to society than any musical group.
She didn’t say she thought *any *percentage of posters on the SDMB pay no income tax. Reading is fundamental.
:eek: Dude. Hie yourself to Youtube and listen up. You are missing out.
Why? How do you define “value to society”?
I’ve been defining it by using the only actual measure of value that society has, but you seem to be using a different measure.
You know, I provided instructions on how to multi-quote in two separate posts in this very thread. I’m just saying.
Rand Rover You are saying an individual’s value to society is measured by their income? Am I understanding you correctly?
Heh. Speaking of hand-waving. How do you interpret the post, then? Here, I’ll help, so you don’t have to scroll up.
Why do you not read that as Carol Stream’s best guess at the percentage of posters that she believes do not pay income tax?
And you’re not off the hook either, pal. If every long-haul truck driver quit their job tomorrow, and every member of Radiohead quit their job tomorrow, which would have the greater impact on society?
No, I didn’t. 47% of the population pays no income tax at all. Another poster gave the links here:
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11353359&postcount=440
I am 100% sure that the percentage of people paying no income tax is much higher on the SDMB than in the general population, given the preponderance of students, and self-admitted unemployed, underemployed, disabled, crazy, and even homeless people this board attracts.
Remember, some of these are folks claim they can’t rub together $7.49 (A YEAR) to keep their Charter Membership up.