# Anything Oscar-Worthy Yet? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 19, 2004, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714 "2004-11-19T20:42:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/21 "2004-11-19T23:18:49Z")
> [@elfkin477](#): > > I don’t get it. The movie played in a couple of places like LA & NYC in December, but didn’t play in the rest of the country until January 9th, so why do films like this get “counted” for a year in which there was only a very limited release? As long as _someone_ pays to see it in December, it’s counted. The reasoning behind limited releases like this is that just being nominated will attract more paying customers, even more so if it wins something. That’s also why you see re-releases after the awards. BTW: I just checked _Big Fish_ on the IMDB and it lists a limited release two weeks after Toronto, LA, and NYC but prior to that nationwide release in January ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/22 "2004-11-19T23:20:41Z")
> [@DMark](#): > > Studios put out their films as late as possible, with the hope that one or more of their films will be nominated. Also so they’d be fresh in the memories of those in the Academy. ---
**Author:** ![interface2x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c0e974/32.png) [@interface2x](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/interface2x)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/23 "2004-11-20T04:36:32Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > When there is a lack of small good films, expect the Oscars to go with Big Budget Major Studio Films. So look at the year end box office winners and those’ll be your winners. And even sorrier to say, that [list so far](http://www.boxofficemojo.com/yearly/chart/?yr=2004&p=.htm) is **ugly**. YIKES! You’re not kiddin’. That _is_ an unattractive list. ---
**Author:** ![Tracy\_Lord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@Tracy\_Lord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tracy_Lord)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/24 "2004-11-20T05:16:40Z")
I may be in the minority, but I thought that _De-Lovely_ was well-scripted, well-filmed, and well-acted, and I’d like to see Kevin Kline, Ashley Judd, and whoever did the costumes for that one get nominations. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/25 "2004-11-20T05:34:27Z")
It’s too bad about this year - the last three years LOTR Oscar-hogged, when there were really good films that didn’t get some of the recognition they deserved, and now there’s not a whole lot going now that it’s wide open. I haven’t seen **The Incredibles** , but it would be nice to see **Eternal Sunshine**. I’ve heard a lot about **Ray** and **Kinsey** - biopics are always good for the Academy. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/26 "2004-11-20T07:00:03Z")
**Sideways** is rock solid with great performances all around. It’s got a shot at best picture, I really enjoyed it. **Ray** will get an acting nomination but I don’t figure it’ll get a best picture nod. **Finding Neverland** will get an acting Nod or so I hear. I haven’t seen it yet so I can’t speak for the best picture category. ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/27 "2004-11-20T07:52:50Z")
I’d like to see Nicole Kidman for **Dogville** and the sublime Virginia Madsen for **Sideways** get nominations. Though they’re longshots because of their genres, I’d also love to see Takeshi Kitano for **Zatoichi** and Chan Wook Park for **Oldboy** get nominations in the Best Foreign Language Picture category, though I think **Maria Full of Grace** will get that award. I really hope the major award categories aren’t dominated by big Hollywood movies like **Troy** , **Alexander** , and **The Aviator**. And count me in among those who are pulling for **Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind**. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/28 "2004-11-20T12:25:39Z")
> [@Tracy Lord](#): > > I may be in the minority, but I thought that _De-Lovely_ was well-scripted, well-filmed, and well-acted, and I’d like to see Kevin Kline, Ashley Judd, and whoever did the costumes for that one get nominations. I liked this movie too, and thought Kevin Kline was wonderful (as always) – but Ashley Judd was so profoundly miscast that I can’t root for her to win an acting award. ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/29 "2004-11-20T14:36:12Z")
Annette Bening was astounding in _Being Julia_, and she should get something just for being a 46 year old woman playing 45 with no plastic surgery! Wrinkles, lines, hot sexy and beautiful! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/30 "2004-11-20T16:07:51Z")
> [@capacitor](#): > > They better do it right with _Al_. They just did piss-poor job with _Troy_. [slight hijack]Don’t get your hopes up. A couple of my friends saw an advance screening and had nothing but bad things to say. Apparently there are a few MST3K moments, but those are spread few and far between terrible, dull, pseudo-philosophical speeches.[/sh] ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/31 "2004-11-20T16:38:45Z")
Looking at the list ftg linked to, I have to think _Passion of the Christ_ is going to win Best Picture. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/32 "2004-11-20T17:07:02Z")
> [@Little Nemo](#): > > Looking at the list ftg linked to, I have to think _Passion of the Christ_ is going to win Best Picture. Oh Jesus! ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/33 "2004-11-20T17:19:15Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Also so they’d be fresh in the memories of those in the Academy. Which is why the fact that “Silence of the Lambs” won so many awards—it was released in February of 1991, a full year before the Oscars in March of '92. Has that happened to any other movie (i.e. released incredibly early and still won top awards at the Oscars)? Besides, of course, “Passion of the Christ” if it wins Oscars. ---
**Author:** ![Agrippina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@Agrippina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agrippina)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/34 "2004-11-20T17:21:55Z")
> [@Agrippina](#): > > Which is why the fact that “Silence of the Lambs” won so many awards—it was released in February of 1991, a full year before the Oscars in March of '92… Meant to say ''Which is why the fact that ‘Silence of the Lambs’ won so many awards was incredible…" Whoops! ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/35 "2004-11-20T18:44:04Z")
Wasn’t there some brew ha ha about The Passion being a foriegn film because of the subtitles and it didn’t get nominated for Golden Globes or one of the lesser Masterbatory Award Shows? . ---
**Author:** ![Treviathan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/838e76/32.png) [@Treviathan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treviathan)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2004, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/36 "2004-11-20T20:51:35Z")
A writing nom for _Before Sunset_ would be wonderful, and I wouldn’t be disappointed with one for _Napoleon Dynamite_, either. For best actress, it may be a longshot, but I’d still bet that Catalino Sandino Moreno will get a nod for _Maria Full of Grace_. What a harrowing movie. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/37 "2004-11-21T02:29:18Z")
> [@Shirley Ujest](#): > > Wasn’t there some brew ha ha about The Passion being a foriegn film because of the subtitles and it didn’t get nominated for Golden Globes or one of the lesser Masterbatory Award Shows? > > . Yes, the Hollywood Foreign Press Association (Golden Globes) decided that the film will not be eligible for Best Drama because it is not in English, but that it will be eligible for Best Foreign Film. This is however the complete opposite of how the Oscars work. For the Academy Awards, a film can only be in the running for Best Foreign Language Film if it is submitted by its country of origin. Just having subtitles doesn’t mean anything. And each country can only submit one film, which is why sometimes films that are very well-received here don’t get a nomination. What country could submit The Passion? No one speaks Aramaic anymore and it was financed by Mel Gibson and starred mostly English speaking actors. In case anyone’s interested, here is a list of the submitted Foreign Language films for this years Oscars, of which 5 will be nominated: Afghanistan, “Earth and Ashes,” Atiq Rahimi, director; Argentina, “A Lost Embrace,” Daniel Burman, director; Austria, “Antares,” G?tz Spielmann, director; Belgium, “The Alzheimer Case,” Erik Van Looy, director; Bosnia and Herzegovina, “Days and Hours,” Pjer Žalica, director; Brazil, “Olga,” Jayme Monjardim, director; Bulgaria, “Mila from Mars,” Zornitsa Sophia, director; Canada, “Far Side of the Moon,” Robert Lapage, director; Chile, “Machuca,” Andrés Wood, director; China, “House of Flying Daggers,” Zhang Yimou, director; Croatia, “Long Dark Night,” Antun Vrdoljak, director; Czech Republic, “Up and Down,” Jan H?ebejk, director; Denmark, “The Five Obstructions,” Jørgen Leth & Lars von Trier, directors; Ecuador, “Chronicles,” Sebastián Cordero, director; Egypt, “I Love Cinema,” Osama Fawzy, director; Estonia, “Revolution of Pigs,” Karlo Funk, director; Finland, “Producing Adults,” Aleksi Salmenperä, director; France, “The Chorus,” Christophe Barratier, director; Germany, “Downfall,” Bernd Eichinger, director; Greece, “A Touch of Spice,” Tassos Boulmetis, director; Hungary, “Kontroll,” Nimród Antal, director; Iceland, “Cold Light,” Hilmar Oddsson, director; India, “Shwaas,” Sandeep Sawant, director; Iran, “Turtles Can Fly,” Bahman Ghobadi, director; Israel, “Campfire,” Marek Rozenbaum, director; Italy, “The House Keys,” Gianni Amelio, director; Japan, “Nobody Knows,” Hirokazu Kore-eda, director; Korea, “Tae Guk Gi,” Kang Je-gyu, director; Macedonia, “The Great Water,” Ivo Trajikov, director; Malaysia, “A Legendary Love,” Saw Teong Hin, director; Mexico, “Innocent Voices,” Luis Mandoki, director; The Netherlands, “Simon,” Eddy Terstall, director; Norway, “Hawaii, Oslo,” Erik Poppe, director; Palestine, “The Olive Harvest,” Hanna Elias, director; Philippines, “Crying Ladies,” Mark Meily, director; Poland, “The Welts,” Magdalena Piekorz, director; Portugal, “The Miracle According to Salomé,” Mário Barroso, director; Romania, “Orient-Express,” Sergiu Nicolaescu, director; Russia, “Night Watch,” Timolir Bekmambetov, director; Serbia and Montenegro, “Goose Feather,” Ljubiša Samardži?, director; Slovenia, “Beneath Her Window,” Metod Pevec, director; South Africa, “Yesterday,” Darrell Roodt, director; Spain, “The Sea Inside,” Alejandro Amenabar, director; Sweden, “As in Heaven,” Kay Pollak, director; Switzerland, “Mein Name Ist Bach,” Dominique de Rivaz, director; Taiwan, “20 : 30 : 40,” Sylvia Chang, director; Thailand, “The Overture,” Itthisoontorn Vichailak, director; Uruguay, “Whisky,” Juan Pablo Rebella, Pablo Stoll, directors; Venezuela, “Punto y Raya,” Elia Schneider, director. ---
**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/38 "2004-11-21T02:36:16Z")
Thanks for that list Eyebrows. I wonder why France didn’t nominate “A Very Long Engagement” ? That’s the movie I’m most looking forward to in the rest of the year but as you say it can’t get a foreign film nod if it’s not on that list. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/39 "2004-11-21T13:25:22Z")
I would love to see \*Team America \* get some nominations for songs. _I’m so ronry… America! Fuck Yeah_! ---
**Author:** ![Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19adc/32.png) [@Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2004, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714/40 "2004-11-21T14:31:53Z")
What, no _Fahrenheit 911_? (Not that I’ve seen it. I’m just expecting it to get nomimated and win at least one award. ) _Ray_ was damn good, as was _Eternal Sunshine_. I’d pick Jamie Foxx for best actor over Carrey, though it would be a difficult choice. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anything-oscar-worthy-yet/275714.md?page=3)