# AP reporting Obama opting out of public funding system. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 19, 2008, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464 "2008-06-19T13:05:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/41 "2008-06-19T23:00:58Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] I would say exactly the same thing I’m saying now. That he was breaking a pledge (or at least the _appearance_ of a pledge), but that he’d be an idiot not to. I think the “if the shoe was on the other foot” is specious in this case. This board is not that mindlessly disingenuous. [/QUOTE] Gosh I expected so much more from the candidate of change that we can believe in! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/42 "2008-06-19T23:21:52Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] Gosh I expected so much more from the candidate of change that we can believe in! [/QUOTE] It’s a pretty big change. He’s the first candidate in 30 years not to fleece taxpayers for his own political gain. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/43 "2008-06-19T23:32:56Z")
[QUOTE=Beadalin] So what happens to these funds when they go unused? Do they move into another pot, or sit there until the next election cycle? [/QUOTE] They sit there until the next election cycle. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/44 "2008-06-20T00:51:57Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] This board is not that mindlessly disingenuous. [/QUOTE] Are you even being serious with that? Look, I’m left-leaning on most issues and I plan to vote for Obama, but this board is so blindly, _rabidly_ left-biased that I read most of the political threads here and can’t do anything but sit back and laugh. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/45 "2008-06-20T00:59:06Z")
How very odd! According to my equally unbiased anaylsis, the Board isn’t left leaning _enough_! And I am a moderate centrist as well, having just said so. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/46 "2008-06-20T01:22:09Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Are you even being serious with that? Look, I’m left-leaning on most issues and I plan to vote for Obama, but this board is so blindly, _rabidly_ left-biased that I read most of the political threads here and can’t do anything but sit back and laugh. [/QUOTE] There’s a difference between being biased and being disingenuous. One can have an ideological or political preference without having a double standard. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/47 "2008-06-20T01:45:57Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] There’s a difference between being biased and being disingenuous. One can have an ideological or political preference without having a double standard. [/QUOTE] Right, but to say this situation would get the same treatment if it were reversed is very disingenuous. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/48 "2008-06-20T02:27:13Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Right, but to say this situation would get the same treatment if it were reversed is very disingenuous. [/QUOTE] No, I believe it’s the truth. This board does not have that kind of history. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/49 "2008-06-20T15:25:34Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] No, I believe it’s the truth. This board does not have that kind of history. [/QUOTE] Cite!!! ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/50 "2008-06-20T15:30:08Z")
[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic] There’s a difference between being biased and being disingenuous. One can have an ideological or political preference without having a double standard. [/QUOTE] Maybe one can but not many more than that. Unless of course you are a journalist, because as we all know, the liberally biased journalists are able to put that aside and report fairly. Either that or not report at all as the three major networks seem to be doing (not doing) on the Countrywide Friends of Angelo “scandal” You want a cite ? How can I cite a negative? ---
**Author:** ![Gozu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gozu/32/6615_2.png) [@Gozu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/51 "2008-06-20T15:34:10Z")
Diogenes, one must not underestimate the role of Physical attractiveness in the choice of presidents. Clearly, Kennedy was more handsome than Nixon, iteratively: Reagan\>everyone Bush Sr \> that loser Clinton \> Bush Sr Gore = W W \> Kerry Obama \> Mac. It’s a done deal, BOOYA! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/52 "2008-06-20T15:39:09Z")
Bear in mind that this is predominantly an **American** board, and what is “left” here is “right” in most of the world. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/53 "2008-06-20T16:12:28Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] Bear in mind that this is predominantly an **American** board, and what is “left” here is “right” in most of the world. [/QUOTE] Fiscally, probably, but we are the premier capitalist government in the world, so that shouldn’t be any surprise. Most of the world is not socially left of our left. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2008, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464/54 "2008-06-20T16:27:27Z")
I think it’s generally more accurate to say y’all have a cent_er_ to the right of our cent_re_. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ap-reporting-obama-opting-out-of-public-funding-system/453464.md?page=2)