# Apes kidnapping Human Women -- Totally False? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 4, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938 "2010-06-04T15:34:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/21 "2014-03-19T12:35:21Z")
In his film _Nénette_, Nicolas Philibert quotes the 18th century naturalist Comte de Buffon as describing orangutans kidnapping women and basically making them kept wives–depositing them high in trees and bringing them food and so on. I do not know whether to believe this; but if it is true it is utterly fascinating. ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/22 "2014-03-19T12:47:44Z")
My tomcat went through a phase where he peed on my wife’s clothes. We asked the vet why he did this, and she claimed that because she was female the cat considered her “his” and was marking his territory. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/23 "2014-03-19T13:12:02Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In his film _Nénette_, Nicolas Philibert quotes the 18th century naturalist Comte de Buffon as describing orangutans kidnapping women and basically making them kept wives–depositing them high in trees and bringing them food and so on. I do not know whether to believe this; but if it is true it is utterly fascinating. What exactly were you searching for when you came across this zombie :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/24 "2014-03-19T13:25:48Z")
“Need answer fast!” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/25 "2014-03-19T13:39:03Z")
> [@George Taylor](#): > > Doctor, I’d like to kiss you goodbye. > [@Dr. Zira](#): > > All right, but you’re so damned ugly. … ---
**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/26 "2014-03-19T14:04:46Z")
I believe that women who go swimming with dolphins are warned to be careful where they touch a male. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/27 "2014-03-19T14:38:03Z")
> [@SlackerInc](#): > > In his film _Nénette_, Nicolas Philibert quotes the 18th century naturalist Comte de Buffon as describing orangutans kidnapping women and basically making them kept wives–depositing them high in trees and bringing them food and so on. I do not know whether to believe this; but if it is true it is utterly fascinating. Certainly not true, and in fact absurd. Male orangs don’t behave this way with female orangs, so there is no reason they would do so with humans. Orangs are essentially solitary and don’t form long-term pair bonds with mates. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/28 "2014-03-19T14:40:51Z")
Maybe that’s what they want human women for - female orangutans are frigid. ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/29 "2014-03-19T14:47:23Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > What exactly were you searching for when you came across this zombie :dubious: I’m guessing that **SlackerInc** was not the reviver of the thread, and that there may have been a drive-by spammer whose post has already been erased by a mod. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/30 "2014-03-19T14:59:46Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > I’m guessing that **SlackerInc** was not the reviver of the thread, and that there may have been a drive-by spammer whose post has already been erased by a mod. That’s not the case. The thread was bumped by **SlackerInc**. Speaking for myself, if I leave a thread open that was bumped by a spammer after I have removed the spam post, I usually post an explanation. ---
**Author:** ![UncleFred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f0a364/32.png) [@UncleFred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleFred)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/31 "2014-03-19T20:39:55Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > [http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/tacksharp/Miscellaneous/Far\_Side\_Jane\_Goodall.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D5894%26page%3D4&h=375&w=278&sz=40&tbnid=k4Yl1glZJryYtM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djane%2Bgoodall%2Bfar%2Bside&usg=\_\_PwPQbXnkmEMVtLF34oWO0IyLn9M=&sa=X&ei=\_DgJTKebJMX7lwfkoIi1Dg&ved=0CCoQ9QEwAw](http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f155/tacksharp/Miscellaneous/Far_Side_Jane_Goodall.jpg&imgrefurl=http://bearinsider.com/forums/showthread.php%3Ft%3D5894%26page%3D4&h=375&w=278&sz=40&tbnid=k4Yl1glZJryYtM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=90&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djane%2Bgoodall%2Bfar%2Bside&usg=__PwPQbXnkmEMVtLF34oWO0IyLn9M=&sa=X&ei=_DgJTKebJMX7lwfkoIi1Dg&ved=0CCoQ9QEwAw) That link appears broken but this one (probably not the same topic) should work. > **[Oliver (chimpanzee)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oliver_(chimpanzee))** > > Oliver (c. 1957 – 2 June 2012) was a former "performing" chimpanzee once promoted as a missing link or "humanzee" due to his somewhat human-like appearance and a tendency to walk upright. Despite his somewhat unusual appearance and behavior, scientists found that Oliver was not a human-chimpanzee hybrid. > Supposedly, the chimpanzee was caught in the Congo. > Oliver was acquired as a young animal in 1970 by trainers Frank and Janet Berger. Some physical and behavioral evidence led the Bergers to be... This was a very unusual chimp but he (sort of) fits this thread… ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/32 "2014-03-19T20:56:25Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > At the same time, it seems a bit silly to think that another species would find humans sexually attractive, don’t you think? Heck, maybe they do… I would hope not, but who can fathom the mind of a beast? (Or other humans, for that matter…) What’s so silly about that? Large dogs will happily get it on with a human being who is on hands and knees. There’s also the 2005 case of [Kenneth Pinyan,](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Pinyan) who was fatally injured while being on the receiving end of an amorous encounter with a horse. There’s also a video out there somewhere of a guy with his pants around his ankles, running around in a field trying to fend off the advances of an obviously aroused male donkey. Not sure if the guy was interrupted while trying to take a dump, or if he was deliberately trying to provoke the donkey, but either way, the donkey clearly found the guy attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/33 "2014-03-19T22:47:12Z")
> [@gytalf2000](#): > > At the same time, it seems a bit silly to think that another species would find humans sexually attractive, don’t you think? Heck, maybe they do… I would hope not, but who can fathom the mind of a beast? (Or other humans, for that matter…) Who said anything about sexually attractive? More likely, even across species, apes might see one another (especially males) as competitors or enemies, and kill them. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938/34 "2014-03-19T23:44:41Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > What exactly were you searching for when you came across this zombie :dubious: I was searching for a confirmation, or debunking, of the claims from the Comte de Buffon, described in my first response. I wasn’t even specifically searching the SDMB (though I had intended to start a thread if I didn’t find any relevant information); but as so often happens, one of the top Google results was from here. I always think if there is already a thread on a question (even an old or “zombie” one), it’s better to reply to it rather than create a new one. Others seem to be of a different opinion. But as long as old threads are not put into archived, read-only mode, I’m going to stick with my approach. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apes-kidnapping-human-women-totally-false/541938.md?page=1)