Hey, NeedsknowyourselfintheBiblicalsense, kiss my southern ass! You are the only person I see displaying prejudice around here. You know, “prejudice,” as in “pre-judging,” as in “judging people you don’t know.”
You pathetic, starved-for-attention, hypocritical wretch…
Whoda ever thunk it? Spoke and I on the same side of a debate on the South?
Needs2know, I was born and raised in the North. I’ve lived in the South for about 4 years now. You can make all the gross over-generalizations you want to, and not care when somebody calls you on them, but you are acting like a fucking idiot. I know just as many racists (if not more) in Pittsburgh as I do in Atlanta.
Um…ok Just don’t ever try to put that to the test to see if it comes out like you say it will. I have only seen this 3 or 4 times in my 4 years (and thousands of instances like you mention above) in the good ol’ racist South.
So, when my white buddy from Alabama, who is one of the most un-racist people I know (always has me (white) and my girlfriend (black) into his home), Has mixed feelings about the Rebel Flag, because both sides of his family had many people killed fighting for the south. He doesn’t want their memory washed away, he is just lying and a racist. He hates black people. Right?
Get your head out of your fucking ass before you spout off again, or at least warn us to wear some goggles before the shit-storm starts.
I can see how there are legit concerns about the Rebel Flag on both sides, and I don’t have a perfect solution. However, It is not nearly as one-sided as you paint it.
Look this is the last time I will address anyone on this…
If you will look back, I too made the case that racisim exsists outside of the South…New York cops…LA cops just for instance. We have our own brand just like everyone else has theirs. The point I was trying to make is that Southerners do not seem to have much back-up from people when it comes to stereotyping. We seem to be fair game even with the so called politically correct. I simply stated that it did us no good, if we are to ever overcome these asumptions, to hang onto the symbols of racisim; i.e. that flag for one thing. It doesn’t matter how much you argue with some guy from Minnesota about what that flag means to you and deny it’s roots in slavery. He will not see it that way, and why should he? The rest of the country sees that flag and our reluctance to stop glorifying “The War” as an inability to give up our racist heritage. And Southerners cannot see that they are indeed refusing to give up a romance with an ideology that many others find repulsive. It doesn’t matter that the North had sweat shops or that Jews and Irishmen were treated like subhuman life forms in the early part of our history. What difference that the Chinese who built the railroad were nothing more than slaves too? It’s only natural for people to down play their misdeeds and elevate others in order to aleviate their own guilt. I say as Southerners we should be the ones to take the high road.
If you want to get really politically correct our country has plenty to be ashamed about, from coast to coast. But nobody talks about any of that now do they? No, they are talking about that damned rag flying over that state capital and their refusal to take it down! It just puts us in the news again with all the rest of our hypocritical country saying “Tisk, tisk the rednecks are at it again.”
As for my Southern neighbors…I find from personal experience; that the staunchest supporters of the “symbols of our Southern heritage” are tried and true racists or at least “closet racists”. I personally prefer to deal with the out and right out front, real time racists. At least you know where they stand, they have the guts to come out and say what they think even if it is wrong and you don’t agree. They don’t hide behind mouthings of “I’m just displaying my heritage.”
I also do not see why people can’t understand that this is an issue where you cannot play on the fence. You either are or you aren’t. It just doesn’t mean a lot if you are simply “lukewarm”. Yes, I would argue your right to fly a Confederate flag over your own damned home, but our state and local governments need to get out of the “Confederate heritage” business and get into the business of doing something worthwhile. I also believe that several times I stated in my posts on this issue that I was sick of hearing the African American community whine about this shit all the time. Don’t they have anything better to do? I would think they do. I do believe they still have some social problems that need dealing with such as unemployment, poverty, education issues, etc. Why waste so much valuable time and effort dealing with a bunch of good old boys? Does the entire African American community think it has hit the mark and now they can simply sit back and address symbolic issues? I realize that here in the south they must pass by statues to dead Confederate heros and that may even be offensive to them, but last time I looked no statue to a dead Confederate hero has been erected in over 40 or 50 years! Richmond did however erect a statue to Arthur Ashe in recent years. (Never mind that it’s ugly. Someone with Kmart taste chose the sculptor.)We’ve renamed a few bridges and many of our elected officals in local government are black. Why not use this political power to do something really positive for the community instead of addressing issues that will not make any kind of real impact at all. Like when our black farmers got together and sued because they were not getting loans the same as white farmers. That kind of raising hell is productive and gets positive results.
Yes, I get really pissed off about these issues because I have lived with them all my life. They have pretty much been shoved down my throat. It’s never ending. I’m getting sick of being called a “nigger lover” by assholes who fail to see that it’s too late for us to put black people on a boat and send them back to Africa. (Something that I used to hear regularily when I was a kid. Never mind that we sent for them in the first damned place!) Nor can you make these kinds of people see that blacks, hispanics, Jews, etc. are entitled to the same rights as everyone else because their ancestors helped to build this country too. I’m tired of the old idea that the South is somehow still being punished, Reformation is over, the carpetbaggers are gone! There are plenty of reasons, bigotry aside, that I have no desire to live anywhere else than right here, somewhere in the beautiful southern United States. (I want to retire even farther south than VA. I hate cold weather.)
I can see why some young guy like Neutron Star might get a little tad of culture shock from being around certain types of Southerners. It wouldn’t be right of him or even me to make sweeping assumptions about anyone, even people I’ve known all my life. But right now as far as I can see the headlines don’t lie, that flag is still flapping in the breeze down here, and folks all over the country are looking at us, white Southerners, and thinking we’re all a bunch of redneck, KKK funded bigots. Doesn’t matter if that idea is coming from some hypocrite in California that employs Juan to do her pool, and Maria to clean her house and doesn’t care where they came from as long as they are cheap. Sick of this subject, you can all bite me.
Needs2…bend over and let you kiss my silly little southern belle ass!
Oh, hell. I know a thread has taken a wrong turn when that damn-Yankee mouthbreather comes into the debate on my side. 
oh, and Needs2knowwhattheworldoutsideherrectumlookslike, you wrote:
You keep saying that, and the rest of us keep wishing it were true…