# apotemnophilia **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 7, 1999, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993 "1999-10-07T10:48:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![zuma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e9c0ed/32.png) [@zuma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zuma)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/1 "1999-10-07T10:48:00Z")
heh. maybe weird things just intrigue me. i’ve encountered all sorts of sexual fetishes, and until i ran across this one, not one has really creeped me. anyway, here’s the link: [http://www.cnn.com/US/9910/06/illegal.surgeries.ap/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/US/9910/06/illegal.surgeries.ap/index.html) i have my own fetishes, as do most people. but this one, well, well. i just don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Temujin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Temujin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Temujin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/2 "1999-10-07T10:52:00Z")
Ooooh, baby! Take it off! Take it off! ---
**Author:** ![ChrisCTP](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@ChrisCTP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChrisCTP)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/3 "1999-10-07T10:58:00Z")
Ick. And people have a problem with homosexuality… WHATEVER!!! * * * Veni, Vidi, Visa … I came, I saw, I bought. ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/4 "1999-10-07T12:08:00Z")
Wow…really bizarre… here’s my favorite part of the article: > [@](#): > > * * * > > Sex-change doctor guilty of second-degree murder > October 6, 1999 > Web posted at: 12:14 PM EDT (1614 GMT) > SAN DIEGO (AP) – A doctor whose license was suspended 22 years ago for performing shoddy sex-change operations has been convicted of second-degree murder in the death of a man who had a healthy leg amputated to satisfy a sexual fetish. > > John Ronald Brown could face life imprisonment. Sentencing was set for November 3. > > Brown, 77, amputated the leg of Philip Bondy, a New York man who paid Brown $10,000 for the operation in May 1998. Bondy, 79, died of gangrene poisoning in a suburban San Diego hotel two days after the operation. > > MESSAGE BOARD > Crime and punishment > > New York psychologist Gregg Furth testified during the two-week trial that he and Bondy contacted Brown as a last resort to fulfill lifelong desires to amputate their legs. They shared a fetish known as apotemnophilia, getting sexual gratification from the removal of a limb. > > Furth paid Brown to amputate one of his legs last year but changed his mind, in part, because he saw a Mexican doctor who was to assist in the surgery walk into the clinic carrying a butcher knife. Yep, that would probobly change my mind real quick too!! * * * Some mornings it just doesn’t seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. [http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/zettecity/index.html](http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/zettecity/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/5 "1999-10-07T12:47:00Z")
OH no, that must have been what happened to pldennison and his leg. He really did not break it at all. In morning over Phil. 😉 SqrlCub * * * “People’s Poet don’t die, we’ll kill ourselves if you do, but first we’ll take off all our clothes.” The Young Ones ---
**Author:** ![ThereWolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4da419/32.png) [@ThereWolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThereWolf)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/6 "1999-10-07T15:07:00Z")
Apotemnophilia: It’s sweeping the nation! [http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/oct99/arm07100699a.asp](http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/oct99/arm07100699a.asp) * * * Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. ---
**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/7 "1999-10-07T15:12:00Z")
**WTF?!** * * * You say “cheesy” like that’s a **BAD** thing. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/8 "1999-10-07T15:52:00Z")
It’s amazing to me this happens often enough that we even need a name for it. Damn disturbing. * * * “The problem with the world is that everyone is a few drinks behind.” - _Humphrey Bogart_ ---
**Author:** ![neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3ab097/32.png) [@neuro-trash\_grrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neuro-trash_grrrl)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/9 "1999-10-07T16:25:00Z")
The problem with a fetish like that is you can only do it four times. * * * Modest? You bet I’m modest! I am the queen of modesty! ---
**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/10 "1999-10-07T16:51:00Z")
I wanna know why the AP thought it necessary to throw “sex change doctor” into the headline, when it had nothing to do with the story and he hadn’t even performed that surgery for 22 years! I guess even the Associated Press isn’t adverse to a bit of unlovely sensationalism. Wasn’t it bizarre enough plain, without making it fancy? ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctor_jackson/32/32_2.png) [@Doctor\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/11 "1999-10-07T16:55:00Z")
_Girls_ could only do it 4 times… * * * The overwhelming majority of people have more than the average (mean) number of legs. – E. Grebenik ---
**Author:** ![Sylence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@Sylence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylence)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/12 "1999-10-08T05:01:00Z")
How the hell do you explain THIS one to your insurance agent? – Sylence * * * “The problem with reality is the lack of background music.” – Anon ---
**Author:** ![BoBettie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@BoBettie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BoBettie)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/13 "1999-10-07T19:01:00Z")
Sorry about my post above…I goofed up the quote. My favorite part is this: > [@](#): > > Furth paid Brown to amputate one of his legs last year but changed his > mind, in part, because he saw a Mexican doctor who was to assist in the > surgery walk into the clinic carrying a butcher knife. That would change my mind, too. A butcher knife! Yikes… * * * Some mornings it just doesn’t seem worth it to gnaw through the leather straps. [http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/zettecity/index.html](http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/zettecity/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Imthecowgodmoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Imthecowgodmoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Imthecowgodmoo)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/14 "1999-10-07T19:29:00Z")
I think its any Americans right if they don’t want a limb anymore! I f I don’t want my leg, then dammit, I’ll pay someone to get rid of it for me! And if this just so happens to get Mr. Willy excited, then more power to it! What’s next? People won’t be allowed to modify their bodies by trying to add a limb or two? I mean, who doesn’t want an extra hoof? FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS PEOPLE! Damn government hypocrites… * * * “I’m not dumb. I just have a command of thoroughly useless information.”-- Calvin and Hobbes (\_\_) `\/-------\ `| |-----| | …c.c…c.c… ---
**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 1999, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/15 "1999-10-07T23:43:00Z")
Sealemon88, I’ll see your “WTF” and I’ll raise you a “WTFH ???” 😉 _looking at his right leg, then at the axe, at his right leg again…_ * * * Coldfire * * * “You know how complex women are” - Neil Peart, Rush (1993) ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/16 "1999-10-08T00:05:00Z")
**neuro-trash grrrl** and **Doctor Jackson** , you can come over and clean the coffee off of my monitor any time that’s convenient for you. LMAO! * * * Livin’ on Tums, Vitamin E and Rogaine ---
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 1999, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apotemnophilia/8993/17 "1999-10-08T14:19:00Z")
I found this on Yahoo’s News of the Weird. Friday October 8 7:05 AM ET Man Cuts Off Arm, Refuses Reattachment MILWAUKEE, Wis. (Reuters) - A man who severed his left arm at the elbow with a guillotine he constructed from plans found on the Internet has refused to have the limb reattached, police said on Thursday. ``Doctors were going to reattach the arm but he refused and told them if they did, he would cut it off again and sue them,’’ Milwaukee Police spokeswoman Karen Pride Garvin said. Thomas Rollo, 53, appeared calm when police arrived on Tuesday as he received treatment from paramedics. He initially told officers he accidentally severed his left arm with tools while working in his garage. But police found the guillotine along with Rollo’s severed left arm in a plastic bag in a refrigerator, and he admitted to building the homemade amputation device from plans he found on the Internet. Police said Rollo is undergoing psychological testing. ## SC Move over Satan. 😉 Now there’s something meatier. [http://smallwonder.simplenet.com/COC.html](http://smallwonder.simplenet.com/COC.html)