# Appalling board performance **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [September 30, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112 "2009-09-30T15:57:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/61 "2009-10-06T02:38:55Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > **HunterHawk** : Many of your questions are those about which we HAVE been told to keep silent. This is a privately-held business, and information about numbers of customers, patterns of purchase, etc. we (mods) have been told often by management is not public information. (Could you walk into the mom-and-pop grocery store on the corner and demand such information?) We have passed that on, many times. FTR, I never suggested that you disclose that information to the public; I only asked whether you were tracking those items. And for those keeping score, I got one database error and one login error while trying to post this reply. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/62 "2009-10-06T02:43:31Z")
Been crapping out on me this evening. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/63 "2009-10-06T11:31:08Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > While I don’t mean to speak for Jenny, I/me/just me/assume that your were speculating here. You were speculating(that sounds funny if you say the word enough times removed from context) about the PTB being idiots for refusing the offer. Which they haven’t done. And, they haven’t accepted. But, you can safely assume they ARE aware of it. I’m afraid you/y’all/you guys are mistaken. 😉 What I said was that I (me/myself) would be an idiot for refusing even to hear the advice of a professional interior designer. That is not speculation. That is a fact. I know these things about myself because I am I. The only speculation I have seen was from Jenny herself, when she speculated that Seven would somehow invade the privacy of the SDMB user information when he ran his analysis. From [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11620987&postcount=88): “What company would give some stranger unfettered access to their computers, computers that have not only website and message board information but other data as well?” She wrote that despite Seven (and others) pointing out specifically (and repeatedly) that no access to any actual SDMB data would be necessary. Since we’ve (you’ve) opened that door, allow me please also to point out that her post was a prime example of using the “Close Thread” power to have the last word, a practice which is what we in the South would call “unseemly”. Even Dex has promised to be more mindful of not abusing that power. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/64 "2009-10-06T11:50:55Z")
Just an update: I have not received a response from Ed Zotti to my email in post #42. I had no problems with board performance yesterday. Today, it is slow and is not loading pages. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/65 "2009-10-06T14:43:20Z")
It’s possible that there are just too many users. With a given budget you can only support a certain amount of usage. Once you go beyond that point performance goes downhill fast. ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/66 "2009-10-06T17:16:45Z")
You know the site does bog and error out a lot, but somehow I don’t think “hey fuckin’ fix it GUUAAAHH” is going to do much. I don’t respond well with that either. Why is everyone so extreme on teh internets? Just my two pennies worth. ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/67 "2009-10-06T17:29:09Z")
> [@Translucent\_Daydream](#): > > You know the site does bog and error out a lot, but somehow I don’t think > > “hey fuckin’ fix it GUUAAAHH” is going to do much. I don’t respond well with that either. > > Why is everyone so extreme on teh internets? > Just my two pennies worth. Bit of pot and kettle syndrome here. Saying everyone is extreme is a bit…extreme, don’t you think? ---
**Author:** ![NineToTheSky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5a626/32.png) [@NineToTheSky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NineToTheSky)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/68 "2009-10-06T17:35:16Z")
> [@samclem](#): > > You were speculating(that sounds funny if you say the word enough times removed from context) > [@NineToTheSky](#): > > Bit of pot and kettle syndrome here. Saying everyone is extreme is a bit…extreme, don’t you think? Speculating sounds sort of medical, and extreme sounds sort of culinary, but extreme speculating…sounds revolting. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Translucent\_Daydream](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/translucent_daydream/32/16170_2.png) [@Translucent\_Daydream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Translucent_Daydream)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/69 "2009-10-06T17:49:27Z")
> [@NineToTheSky](#): > > Bit of pot and kettle syndrome here. Saying everyone is extreme is a bit…extreme, don’t you think? I think you missed teh jokez. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/70 "2009-10-07T01:26:21Z")
Testing. EDIT: Ah ha! This is the first time in three (3) days I’ve been allowed to log in, let alone post. Personally, I think my subscription should be extended a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/71 "2009-10-07T01:48:09Z")
> [@Siam\_Sam](#): > > Personally, I think my subscription should be extended a few days. You’re correct. I paid for an extension to your _Butts, Boobs, n’ Beavers_\* magazine subscription, so you’ll be seeing at least another month of…well. - [sub]A real magazine, at one time.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/72 "2009-10-07T02:26:16Z")
> [@Una\_Persson](#): > > You’re correct. I paid for an extension to your _Butts, Boobs, n’ Beavers_\* magazine subscription, so you’ll be seeing at least another month of…well. > > - [sub]A real magazine, at one time.[/sub] That’s nothing. Back in university, I knew a guy (I swear it was not me. Really!) who had not one, but two (2) different issues of a periodical called _Girls Who Like to Suck Big Cocks_ laid out on his coffee table. ---
**Author:** ![Ed\_Zotti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/fbc32d/32.png) [@Ed\_Zotti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ed_Zotti)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/73 "2009-10-07T04:34:08Z")
We’re having problems with our service provider, which hosts many Creative Loafing sites. Short version of long story: (a) We mirror the master database server to a slave, which handles many of the DB queries. If we don’t do this the MB can lock up in as little as 15 minutes, as Jerry determined by recent experiment. This problem became acute after a vB upgrade last year. (b) Although the master server is a dedicated resource, the slave is shared and uses a shared data pipe. Apparently our host is having bandwidth issues. When the pipe fills up, everybody using shared resources has problems. We surmise they’re getting a lot of beefs about this. Jerry has been inquiring and they tell us an upgrade is supposed to be in place by mid-October. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to see what a dedicated slave will cost. Our apologies for the inconvenience. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/74 "2009-10-07T04:57:34Z")
Thanks for the update. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/75 "2009-10-07T05:02:26Z")
Thanks for explaining, **Ed**. One of the most annoying things to me about the poor performance of the board was the feeling that nothing was being done to remedy it. It’s good to know that the problem is being worked on. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/76 "2009-10-07T12:09:50Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > We’re having problems with our service provider, which hosts many Creative Loafing sites. Short version of long story: (a) We mirror the master database server to a slave, which handles many of the DB queries. If we don’t do this the MB can lock up in as little as 15 minutes, as Jerry determined by recent experiment. This problem became acute after a vB upgrade last year. (b) Although the master server is a dedicated resource, the slave is shared and uses a shared data pipe. Apparently our host is having bandwidth issues. When the pipe fills up, everybody using shared resources has problems. We surmise they’re getting a lot of beefs about this. Jerry has been inquiring and they tell us an upgrade is supposed to be in place by mid-October. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to see what a dedicated slave will cost. Our apologies for the inconvenience. Apologies accepted! 🙂 Thanks for updating us. (Just be careful about post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacies — “problem became acute after a vB upgrade”.) ---
**Author:** ![Hunter\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/50afbb/32.png) [@Hunter\_Hawk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hunter_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/77 "2009-10-07T14:52:42Z")
> [@Ed\_Zotti](#): > > Although the master server is a dedicated resource, the slave is shared and uses a shared data pipe. Apparently our host is having bandwidth issues. When the pipe fills up, everybody using shared resources has problems. We surmise they’re getting a lot of beefs about this. Jerry has been inquiring and they tell us an upgrade is supposed to be in place by mid-October. If that doesn’t work, we’ll have to see what a dedicated slave will cost. Our apologies for the inconvenience. Considering the duration of the issues, I assume you have an SLA with the service provider that will provide for appropriate penalties? (Yeah yeah yeah, privately-held company, can’t discuss these things, etc., etc. Figured it might be worth asking anyway.) ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/78 "2009-10-08T02:50:43Z")
Seems to be working well now. Thanks for the info, Ed. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/79 "2009-10-08T03:01:43Z")
Sweet. (Well, not sweet that there are known issues, but sweet that the known issues are being worked on.) Thanks, **Ed**. ---
**Author:** ![jabiru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/bbce88/32.png) [@jabiru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jabiru)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112/80 "2009-10-08T03:20:32Z")
What I can’t understand is when I visit the board at 10:02pm and the board says that my last visit was at 10:02pm (the same day) and all threads show up as read. Weird and annoying as hell. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appalling-board-performance/512112.md?page=5)