# Apparenly I'm off the Grid. I dont recognize a single Grammy nominated song

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**Created:** [December 7, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612 "2004-12-07T19:53:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/1 "2004-12-07T19:53:20Z")

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Per this article, I have no clue what _any_ of these Grammy nominated songs are. 😕 I’ve never even _heard_ of this guy “Kayne West”.

Between burning my own CD mixes, and my XM Radio, it looks as if I’m off the current popular song radar.

[Rapper Kanye West, R and B’s Usher, Alica Keys, Ray Charles top Grammy nods](http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/afp/20041207/ts_alt_afp/afplifestyle_us_music_041207185952)

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> LOS ANGELES (AFP) - Red hot rapper Kanye West, diva Alicia Keys, Rhythm and Blues king Usher and late soul legend Ray Charles topped the nominations for the 2005 Grammy Awards that were unveiled.
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> West, 27, led the race for music’s highest honours with 10 nods, including best album for his double-platinum debut work “The College Dropout,” song of the year for “Jesus Walks” and best new artist.  
> “This is the ultimate validation for me. I couldn’t even get a record deal (before),” West said.  
> “I had multiple platinum tracks … but they said they do not believe in Kanye as an artist. So come in with 10 Grammy nominations is just like … I don’t even need to say anything.”  
> Multiple Grammy winner Alicia Keys and R and B sensation Usher tied in second place in the race with eight nods each, including album of the year for both artists, record of the year for Usher’s megahit “Yeah!” and song of the year for Keys for “If I ain’t Got You”.

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**Author:** ![SmackFu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/53a042/32.png) [@SmackFu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmackFu)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/2 "2004-12-07T20:21:38Z")

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Everyone mentioned there is R&B. It’s easy to follow current music and not be into R&B.

How about these guys:

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> Punk pop outfit Green Day received six nominations when they were unveiled early Tuesday in Hollywood, while Grammy darling Norah Jones ties with country legend Loretta Lynn, re-emerging star Prince, and engineer Al Schmitt with five nominations each.

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**Author:** ![Kid\_A\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Kid\_A\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kid_A_1)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/3 "2004-12-07T20:27:37Z")

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Here’s a list of all the nominees:  
[2004 Grammy Nominees](http://www.grammy.com/awards/grammy/47list.TXT)

Let’s see if this thread burns out as fast as mine did last year.

Anyways, I’ll be pulling for Kanye, Green Day, Franz Ferdinand and Modest Mouse and for Best Pop Collaboration With Vocals, Redemption Song by Johnny Cash & Joe Strummer. I really, really hope this wins.

However, this is the Grammys so I’m expeting absolutely nothing from them in terms of quality.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/4 "2004-12-07T20:35:26Z")

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Holy cow, that p.o.s. Hoobestank doggerel “The Reason” got a Best Song nomination? I may recognize very few of the songs/artists listed, but I can recognize that that song is a turd of the highest order. Blech.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/5 "2004-12-07T20:52:27Z")

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You’ve never heard of Ray Charles? 😕

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/6 "2004-12-07T21:03:54Z")

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> [@Lord Ashtar](#):
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> You’ve never heard of Ray Charles? 😕

He said he didn’t recognize the songs, not the artists. Heck, I recognize Alicia Keys. She’s the hottie. 🙂

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/7 "2004-12-07T21:07:56Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> …Alicia Keys. She’s the hottie. 🙂

[Cite](http://www.alicia-keys.org/x_cutajar.htm).

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/8 "2004-12-07T21:25:20Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> He said he didn’t recognize the songs, not the artists. Heck, I recognize Alicia Keys. She’s the hottie. 🙂

Ah, gotcha ya. And yes, Alicia Keys is about as fine as they come.

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**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/9 "2004-12-07T21:26:52Z")

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[The Grammys are Bunk](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=164625).

Yes, I’m still bitter.

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**Author:** ![cckerberos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@cckerberos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cckerberos)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/10 "2004-12-07T21:32:26Z")

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Evanescence is a pop group?

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/11 "2004-12-07T21:56:35Z")

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> [@cckerberos](#):
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> Evanescence is a pop group?

Maybe you’re thinking of Effervescence?

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**Author:** ![Jurph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/50afbb/32.png) [@Jurph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurph)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/12 "2004-12-07T21:59:44Z")

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Evanescence is pop masquerading as dark, angsty goth music in the same way that Avril is pop masquerading as punk (?). I went to an Evanescence show, and it was about fifty-fifty composed of hipsters who were there because the band had a catchy single, and kids who saw the video and wanted to kiss/be Amy Lee, the way-hottie-licious lead singer. I went with a friend who had an extra ticket and it was a fun time until the loonie ran onstage and hugged Amy Lee. Then the bouncer dragged his ass offstage and it was a fun time again.

Yes, Evanescence is pop. They are Dark, Gothy, Metal-Rock. But they are still basically pop.

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**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/13 "2004-12-07T22:09:20Z")

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> [@ShibbOleth](#):
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> Maybe you’re thinking of Effervescence?

I would just like to say, “brilliant.”

And as far as rap goes, Kanye West is pretty good. I don’t know about the other stuff though.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/14 "2004-12-07T22:23:57Z")

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Evanescence isn’t really pop in the sense that the Beatles or Fountains of Wayne are pop, but as metal acts go, they’re near the top in terms of accessibility and pop appeal. I’m just surprised that they’re eligible this year–their album came out in 2003, so what are they doing in the 2004 Grammys?

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/15 "2004-12-07T22:26:43Z")

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I’ve been off the Grid for years. Last year I watched for a half hour before I _finally_ recognized someone, anyone: Billy Joel. I grew up listening to his music. “Come out, Virginia…” I was such a rebel listening to his album because it was banned at my school. (Sister Mary Carmen would have had a coronary over Eminem.) Anywho, I think Joel was being given a lifetime achievement award or something, which shows you how decrepit I am.

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**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/16 "2004-12-07T22:37:40Z")

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The grammys their last tatter of credibility when they gave one to Hilary Clinton (best spoken record). Try as I might I can’t find a list of who she beat.

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**Author:** ![sleeepy2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@sleeepy2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleeepy2)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/17 "2004-12-07T22:38:50Z")

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> [@sleeepy2](#):
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> The grammys their last tatter of credibility when they gave one to Hilary Clinton (best spoken record). Try as I might I can’t find a list of who she beat.

Of course they **lost** their last tatter…

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/18 "2004-12-07T22:47:43Z")

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> [@audiobottle](#):
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> I would just like to say, “brilliant.”

Thank you (I was afraid that would “whoosh” more than amuse).

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**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\
**Post date:** [December 7, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparenly-im-off-the-grid-i-dont-recognize-a-single-grammy-nominated-song/278612/19 "2004-12-07T23:18:48Z")

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But **astro** , it’s a **nice** cave we’re in.  
(I’ve not recognized a single major Grammy song or album for years…)
