# Apparently a new Heroes Reboot or Sequel is coming

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**Created:** [February 23, 2014, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997 "2014-02-23T03:35:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [February 25, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/21 "2014-02-25T23:15:37Z")

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> [@Enright3](#):
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> My problem with the original Heroes was that if EVERYONE ends up with special powers then it’s not as interesting.

And if that wasn’t bad enough they made everybody with powers related to each other :smack:

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**Author:** ![toast\_pakora](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3ec8ea/32.png) [@toast\_pakora](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toast_pakora)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/22 "2014-02-26T13:24:56Z")

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The first season was good until it fell apart in the finale, which should have been a premonition to us.

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2014, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/23 "2014-02-26T14:44:27Z")

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So, out of curiosity. The show really fell apart around the time of the writers’ strike. I’ve even heard a lot of blame on the show being because of the strike. I don’t what the cause was but I’m hard pressed to remember when a show was so successful one season and tanked so hard the next season. Usually it’s a gradual decline.

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/24 "2015-09-24T15:12:38Z")

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Heroes Reborn premieres tonight.

I really enjoyed the show when it started out. They had a strong first season with a good over arching plot and interesting characters. Then the next couple seasons happened.

So I have high hopes for this one, it’s interesting that they’re going back to the well on it but there are some very good characters in there that are worth putting back onscreen.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/25 "2015-09-25T00:24:30Z")

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I can’t hear Heroes Reborn without thinking of that infamous drawing of Captain America by Rob Liefeld.

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/26 "2015-09-25T00:32:19Z")

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I watched the original and 4400 so close together that I can’t remember which characters went with which series.

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**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/27 "2015-09-25T03:23:17Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> And if that wasn’t bad enough they made everybody with powers related to each other :smack:

That was my main problem with it - like with (what little I know about) the X-Men. You can’t say people are randomly getting powers/mutating, then make all of them related. That’s not random, that’s an inheritable trait.  
I liked the first season of Heroes (I stopped somewhere in season…2? 3?) and gave Heroes Reborn a try. I give it a cautious “that was enjoyable and I’ll be back next week”. Also, long time, no see, “Chuck”!

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/28 "2015-09-25T13:52:12Z")

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What’s good is the best character, Noah, is the main focus and the worst, his daughter, is dead. Although there is no killing her but thanks to prior commitments we hopefully won’t ever see her again.

I like that we get back to prophetic comic books and the new heroes are interesting.  
The Katana girl is great, but it seems like it would have been easier to just take a cab.

The bad is stuff like the Jamaican trying to kill Noah for no good reason and getting killed himself in a stupid way. The problem with the old series was people doing stupid things they never should be doing for no good reason.

The explosion hearkens back to the explosion they tried to stop in season one. I still don’t see what good comes from that.

Chuck is killing people he doesn’t even know. Seems too trigger happy.

The locator girl tried to extort that telekinetic guy, threw a knife at him and burned his face. It’s hard to sympathize with her except for her green dress.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/29 "2015-09-25T14:01:14Z")

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That green dress was a nice super power.

I wonder if ice cream lovin boy is going to be revealed as Cop’s kid

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/30 "2015-09-25T14:02:28Z")

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Haitian, BTW, not Jamaican

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/31 "2015-09-25T14:18:09Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> What’s good is the best character, Noah, is the main focus and the worst, his daughter, is dead. Although there is no killing her but thanks to prior commitments we hopefully won’t ever see her again.

I’ll agree with you on Noah but you’re forgetting all of Ali Larter’s characters from the last series. Apparently her acting coach only taught her how to stare blankly and stick out her teeth. Then then gave her more than one character to play…

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/32 "2015-09-25T14:44:09Z")

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She’s not dead - she’s a singer in nashville.

Can’t say I hated it- but it is nothing more than x-men/mutant wars thing - there’s nothing ‘new’ here.

I did like katana girl a bit…that has promise as a story for a little while (the power, abilty)

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/33 "2015-09-25T15:00:08Z")

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> [@AncientHumanoid](#):
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> Haitian, BTW, not Jamaican

Alright, but after I heard him talk how was I to know what island he was from?

> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> I’ll agree with you on Noah but you’re forgetting all of Ali Larter’s characters from the last series. Apparently her acting coach only taught her how to stare blankly and stick out her teeth. Then then gave her more than one character to play…

All her characters were interesting. Clair was only interesting when she was putting her hand in the garbage disposal or someone was trying to cut her head open. Other then that she was just there to bring the show down by being upset by anyone doing anything. And she got a lot of screen time doing that.

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**Author:** ![Master\_Wang-Ka](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/master_wang-ka/32/3325_2.png) [@Master\_Wang-Ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Master_Wang-Ka)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/34 "2015-09-25T15:20:40Z")

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The original was interesting. Then it went flat. Then it started being interesting again. And then it went flat again, except for Sylar.

Perhaps I am in the minority, but I’m sick of shows that want to introduce mystery, and then never, never, never completely resolve it. The X-Files did it, Lost did it… Twin Peaks was about the only show that I think MIGHT have pulled it off, but that was because the entire rest of the show was so nuts and so compelling (as long as David Lynch was doing it).

That, and the pilot of Heroes started with a few characters and two central mysteries: why are people developing powers, and what’s this about a nuclear explosion? Save the cheerleader, save the world?

Heroes Reborn went WAY too shotgun approach for my taste. Too many characters, too many plotlines, too many enigmas. I watch TV to be entertained; if I find that a show is irritating me, I’ll change the channel.

If I want to be irritated, that’s what Real Life is for.

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**Author:** ![TheInimitableMaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@TheInimitableMaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheInimitableMaven)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/35 "2015-09-25T15:45:13Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> I can’t hear Heroes Reborn without thinking of that infamous drawing of Captain America by Rob Liefeld.

This times one hundred. My immediate thought upon the rumors swirling about a ‘Heroes Reborn’ reboot and even now with the title and show having come to full fruition was/is _“Are the writers not aware of what was one of the more infamous ‘events’/cash grabs in history (AND before ‘events’ became the norm they are now in comic-dom)?!”_ Or perhaps they are…

_Heroes_ was certainly great in its first season…but I immediately bailed upon two things.

1. “Save The Cheerleader, Save The World” ended up being for naught and nothing more than a way to sucker people into watching.

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1. More and more characters and powers were introduced and I started getting a _“This is becoming a television version of the X-Men…”_ vibe. Too many characters and convolution for convolution’s sake was what immediately turned me off the mutants when I started getting my comic book reading and collecting feet wet, and it’s always remained a turn-off for me with most other superhero/villain fare as well.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/36 "2015-09-25T16:52:01Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> Alright, but after I heard him talk how was I to know what island he was from?

Because he was referred to as “The Haitian” all through the original series. 😛

No big ting, mon.  
The Evo Killer Couple seems to have an odd agenda. Kill All Evos! But, why? (At first, I thought she was NuWho’s Martha, but she isn’t.)

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/37 "2015-09-25T16:58:25Z")

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> [@Aquadementia](#):
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> Alright, but after I heard him talk how was I to know what island he was from?

They called him “The Haitian” about a thousand times during the original run of the series. Of course, I’m trying and failing to remember much of anything at all about this show that I watched religiously. Maybe he got to both of us. 🙂

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/38 "2015-09-26T10:01:56Z")

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> [@AncientHumanoid](#):
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> The Evo Killer Couple seems to have an odd agenda. Kill All Evos! But, why? (At first, I thought she was NuWho’s Martha, but she isn’t.)

Mutants -er, Evos - were blamed for the explosion on June 13th in Odessa, and their son died there. But they seem to be killing pretty much anyone, as the shooting of a room full of powerless computer nerds made clear.

I watched th first two eps, but I’ll pass on the show - just didn’t engage me. Hope Legends is better…

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/39 "2015-09-26T16:58:34Z")

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> [@Master\_Wang-Ka](#):
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> Heroes Reborn went WAY too shotgun approach for my taste. Too many characters, too many plotlines, too many enigmas. I watch TV to be entertained; if I find that a show is irritating me, I’ll change the channel.

Yeah. The only mystery I’m really interested in, after the first two episodes is why Penny-guy is protecting/stalking the teleport kid.

Since no one else has mentioned it (unless I missed it), I’ll quote Sheldon Cooper about the original “Heroes”

“They can’t just cancel a show like Alphas. You know? They have to help the viewers let go. Firefly did a movie to wrap things up. Buffy the Vampire Slayer continued on as a comic book. Heroes gradually lowered the quality season by season till we were grateful it ended.”

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-a-new-heroes-reboot-or-sequel-is-coming/681997/40 "2015-09-26T18:17:51Z")

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I’m surprised anyone actually liked katana girl, to me it was by far the worst part of the show. It felt like watching Michael Scott on The Office, i was so embarrassed for them to the point it made me uncomfortable.

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