# Apparently cheese gets you mildly high?

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Tags:** food-cooking
**Created:** [December 28, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291 "2023-12-28T21:44:22Z")
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### Author: ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2023, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/1 "2023-12-28T21:44:22Z")

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found this today … lots of things i didnt know…explains why i eat a lot of it lol

> **[Yes, you really are high on cheese](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-cheese-is-addictive-casein-feel-good-hormone-dopamine-hit-2023-12)**
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> Cheese is irresistible due to a highly-concentrated protein called casein that turns into a feel-good hormone in our body.

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### Author: ![Cardigan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardigan/32/187_2.png) [@Cardigan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cardigan)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2023, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/2 "2023-12-28T21:54:48Z")

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Hey man, you want to do some Muenster? This shit is seriously top shelf! I’m looking to score some Gorgonzola and maybe we can have a party this weekend.

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### Author: ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/3 "2023-12-28T22:11:45Z")

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No wonder the [Cheese shop owner got shot by the _peckish_ client when there was no cheese.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz1JWzyvv8A)

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### Author: ![dougrb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/76d3ee/32.png) [@dougrb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougrb)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2023, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/4 "2023-12-28T23:30:01Z")

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I tried it once and it clogged up my bong.

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### Author: ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)
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If you buy stinky cheese, the kids won’t eat it all on you. Just in case you’re having that problem. The younger they are, the less stinky it needs to be.

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### Author: ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/6 "2023-12-29T00:07:08Z")

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Isn’t casein in all dairy products?

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### Author: ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/7 "2023-12-29T02:19:27Z")

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Well, this explains a lot . . .

Though in reality, it seems that for _most_ individuals, casomorphins are broken down into smaller, non-pharmacologically active peptides in the gut and are then absorbed as nutrients and fail to supply and ‘opioid high’.

Per the article linked below: "Nevertheless, in some individuals that are immunocompromised, their condition increases permeability of the gut barrier often referred to as a “leaky gut” condition. Thus, the absorption of β-casomorphins appears possible.

[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092422442100488X](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S092422442100488X)

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#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/8 "2023-12-29T03:14:52Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> found this today … lots of things i didnt know…explains why i eat a lot of it lol  
> [Why Cheese Is Addictive: Produces Feel-Good Hormone, Dopamine Hit](https://www.businessinsider.com/why-cheese-is-addictive-casein-feel-good-hormone-dopamine-hit-2023-12) -

Edamed if you do, Edamed if you don’t.

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### Author: ![jnglmassiv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f07891/32.png) [@jnglmassiv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jnglmassiv)
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I’ve tried ‘doing’ cheddar cheese before bed hoping it might intensify dreaming. The experiment was inconclusive, maybe some more dreams, remembered better? Maybe not?

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> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> I’ve tried ‘doing’ cheddar cheese before bed hoping it might intensify dreaming. The experiment was inconclusive, maybe some more dreams, remembered better? Maybe not? -

🎶 Sweet dreams are made of brie…🎶

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### Author: ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/11 "2023-12-29T04:24:15Z")

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Oh, that’s Gouda!

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### Author: ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)
#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/12 "2023-12-29T04:27:56Z")

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Blessed are the cheesemakers?

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### Author: ![actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e79b87/32.png) [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/actualliberalnotoneofthose)
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So if I drink casein protein shakes (which would have more protein than several servings of cheese) I’m going to be high all the time?

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### Author: ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)
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OTOH, the capsaicin found in hot peppers and the spicy foods that contain them have been shown to pretty universally trigger the release of endorphins and dopamine that create feel-good sensations. Though a much easier solution might be to live in a state or country that has legalized cannabis. 😃

> [@jnglmassiv](#):
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> I’ve tried ‘doing’ cheddar cheese before bed hoping it might intensify dreaming. The experiment was inconclusive, maybe some more dreams, remembered better? Maybe not?

What you want is vitamin C! (Not really.) Back in my youth I convinced myself based on extremely unreliable, anecdotal evidence from a sample of one (me) that taking vitamin C before bedtime induced more vivid dreams. I never really proved or disproved the hypothesis, so go ahead and try it, but be aware that the hypothesis is backed up by the world’s worst research project!

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#### Post date: [December 29, 2023, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-cheese-gets-you-mildly-high/995291/15 "2023-12-29T12:39:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Cheese is irresistable due to a highly-concentrated protein called casein…

Casein is also found in some “artificial” cheeses and, as an old _Godfather’s Pizza_ ad reminded us, in glues, as well. Casein was also the ingredient used in old-style milk-based paints to get them to stick.

So maybe you can get high by eating the right glues.

> **[How to Make Casein Glue | ehow.com](https://www.ehow.com/how_8474158_make-casein-glue.html)**
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> Casein is a protein found in milk and has been used for centuries as the main binding ingredient in glue. Due to the popularity of synthetic glues, casein glue is not used as commonly today as it once was.

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“Mildly”?.. please.

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### Author: ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)
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[Ch-ch-ch-CHEESE?!](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/rescuerangers/images/8/82/Chip-n-dale-rescue-rangers-volume-2-20061114045022993-000.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140822181040)

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Who am I to diss a brie?  
I cheddar the world and the Saanenkaese  
Everybody’s looking for Muenster….

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[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53428809692_97952ec947_z.jpg "CZ0lINBWkAARNo7") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/197666118@N08/53428809692/in/dateposted-public/)

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So, what I’m gathering is that I need to find a local cheese-maker who can whip up some Ghost Pepper/Skywalker OG jack cheese for my Monte Christo sandwiches.

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