# Apparently, I AM a terrorist... (airplane rant) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 11, 2002, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131 "2002-12-11T23:17:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/61 "2002-12-12T18:04:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \* > \*\*You guys are killing me. For the second time I never said everyone shouldn’t go through security screening. What I did say was that a great majority of terrorist attacks are done by young middle eastern men and that they should receive additional scrutiny. \*\* Thus opening the floodgates for homegrown terrorists (McVeigh, anyone) to wreak their havoc unmolested. What a great idea! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/62 "2002-12-12T18:23:05Z")
jarbaby, Why are you being anal about the obvious? Gary wrote: Basic problem of available resources. The moment you say that one group should receive more attention, then you are diverting security resources away from other groups. Terrorists then take advantage of this, and use people from these (now safer) groups. Well if your searching everyone (like we are) it won’t make that much sence to recruit outside your group. To recruit outside of your group also requires time and risk of being discovered. Avalonian wrote: Thus opening the floodgates for homegrown terrorists (McVeigh, anyone) to wreak their havoc unmolested. What a great idea! Unmolested? This is the kind of assinine comment that is just thrown in for kicks I guess. I never said to quit searching everyone for the 3rd time now. ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/63 "2002-12-12T18:28:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \* > \*\*This is the kind of assinine [sic] comment that is just thrown in for kicks I guess. I never said to quit searching everyone for the 3rd time now. \*\* No, it’s the kind of _asinine_ response that is appropriate to your own asinine comment, still uproven, about the percentage of terrorists who are Middle-Eastern. We’re in the Pit, right? Prove your assertion, or kindly fuck off. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/64 "2002-12-12T18:31:04Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \* > **Well if your searching everyone (like we are) it won’t make that much sence to recruit outside your group. To recruit outside of your group also requires time and risk of being discovered.** You’ve already mentioned instances of people who would not be affected by profiling - Richard Reid (British) and John Walker (American). These people are recruiting for a cause, and have been for many years. The weakness in your logic is because you view this as a nice, you versus them, easily definied situation. It isn’t. The people looking to do this do not fit into the neat little pigeonholes you’d like to create. If you profile, they will take advantage of it. And in the meantime you will incite further bad feeling and accusations of anti-arab policies. ---
**Author:** ![BottledBlondJeanie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/0ea827/32.png) [@BottledBlondJeanie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BottledBlondJeanie)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/65 "2002-12-12T19:41:27Z")
I’m still snickering that y’all are using words such as “asinine” and “anal” in a thread about anal beads :). **MtgMan** I’m glad that my initials amuse you, it reminds me of the time I showed a thread to my OP and said about BBJ, “That’s me.” “You named yourself after a blow job?!” ---
**Author:** ![blanx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f04885/32.png) [@blanx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blanx)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/66 "2002-12-12T19:45:49Z")
[hijack] **BBJ** - email me- I have a work- related question for you. [/hijack] blanx ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/67 "2002-12-12T19:49:32Z")
Mr. Fuck orr Avalonian, If you don’t have enough common sence to know who is responsible for a majority of the terrorist acts on us and our allies take the test moron. Bet you still can’t pass. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/68 "2002-12-12T19:53:20Z")
Hmm…now you’re just looking at a pattern, and yet on page one of this very thread you said: > [@](#): > > Truth is that **99%** of terrorist acts are commited by > young middle eastern men and they should be consistantly searched. THAT’S the cite we’re looking for. ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/69 "2002-12-12T19:54:04Z")
BottledBlondJeanie. I got a sight you got to see girl. I have never seen this stuff so cheap. > **[Target : Expect More. Pay Less.](https://www.target.com/)** > > Shop Target online and in-store for everything from groceries and essentials to clothing and electronics. Choose contactless pickup or delivery today. Gotta watch that plane security though. They will let the Ayatollah right on the plane while checking out your toys. 😉 I can relate to what your saying. Vegas was a big eye opener to me. ---
**Author:** ![loomisfoil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/47e85d/32.png) [@loomisfoil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loomisfoil)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/70 "2002-12-12T20:07:30Z")
Were you travelling through [phoenix](http://www.arizonarepublic.com/special42/articles/0207frisk07.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/71 "2002-12-12T20:08:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BIG\_DADDY \* > \*\*nope, no patterns anywhere. \*\* [Monty Python] Now that’s what I call proof![/Monty Python] As **jarbabyj** pointed out, your original assertion was that 99% of terrorist acts are committed by young Middle Eastern men. Am I to understand that by your example of “patterns” you are backing away from this assertion? Glad you see it my way. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Demise](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/34f0e0/32.png) [@Demise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Demise)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/72 "2002-12-12T20:10:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BottledBlondJeanie \* > \*\*I had driven down to Austin with my…\…mini vibrator (small but phallus shaped) and my…\…Thai Jelly Butt Beads \*\* So, umm, you gonna be back down here any time soon? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/73 "2002-12-12T20:16:58Z")
Jesus on a stick. From **loomisfoil** ’s cite: > [@](#): > > \*\*“The more I protested the more he smirked,” said Anita Lawrence, a 60-year-old real estate broker from north Scottsdale who said she was led behind a tall screen by a male employee before boarding an America West Airlines flight to Houston on Jan. 21. > > "He told me: ‘Do you want to get on this plane?’ " Lawrence said. “He touched my breasts, he touched my hips. I felt sexually assaulted.”\*\* Did anyone else hear “Do you want to get on this plane?” spoken in the same tones as “Who’s you daddy?” Yick. These people’s power trips are sickening. > [@](#): > > **"Under the current structure, if passengers or airline employees believe they are treated unfairly, they should ask to speak to the security screener’s supervisor or contact the air carrier’s ground security coordinator at the departing airport," Mineta wrote.** I wonder if the airlines will refund/replace plane tickets for missed flights in these cases. ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/74 "2002-12-12T20:24:31Z")
Avalonian, The point was that a great majority are and we would be stupid to ignore that. I suppose your like the other knuckleheads that thought I really condoned punching somebody instead of getting the point. Debating is much more fun when you work twords a common understanding instead of just dog piling and needling someone to make you feel good about yourself and your scewed views. IMO ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/75 "2002-12-12T20:26:40Z")
If working towards a common understanding means making up statistics out of the blue, I’ll take the dog pile any day. ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/76 "2002-12-12T20:45:33Z")
Jarbooby, What’s up with all the anger on this BB? I’ve never seen anything like it. If someone doesn’t hold the same opinions as the guys in your little circle jerk then you all dog pile. I have been to many BBs but never one with the hostility you have here. There of course are the exceptions. Gary was civil and straight forward. BottledBlondJeanie seems cool. Giraffe again was straight forward but the rest of you should become school teachers and sell your line of shit to kids because there the only ones you have a chance of convincing with your weak ass debating skills. Oh wait, there probably are not any openings in our public schools as there are already a bunch of you in there. LOL ---
**Author:** ![Avalonian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@Avalonian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Avalonian)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/77 "2002-12-12T20:46:42Z")
Agreed, **jar**. **BIG\_DADDY** , next time you want to work towards a “common understanding,” you might do better by not using hyperbole, exaggeration, insult, and invented numbers as your tools. They do not serve your purpose. Until then… pile it on, baby. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/78 "2002-12-12T20:49:07Z")
> [@](#): > > I am a blonde, 20 something who also gets frisked. I think the guys in the security like feeling me up. I was under the impression that passengers can only be searched by someone of the same sex if there is any touching. ---
**Author:** ![BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a87d85/32.png) [@BIG\_DADDY\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BIG_DADDY_1)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/79 "2002-12-12T20:58:02Z")
Whatever Avalonian you still never made one point about the subject which is as weak as it gets. Jarbooby too. Diane, Would you preffer that? ---
**Author:** ![Dead\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/848f3c/32.png) [@Dead\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Badger)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131/80 "2002-12-12T21:09:20Z")
> [@](#): > > The point was that a great majority are and we would be stupid to ignore that. No matter how many times you repeat this, it will still be bullshit. Have you heard of the IRA? ETA? Hell, not even “99%” of the terrorist attacks in _America_ in the past few years have been caused by Islamic guys. Let’s see: McVeigh - white. Richard Reid: English muslim. Anthrax mailers - who the fuck knows? 9/11 - the obvious. So far we’re running at 50%. If we throw it open worldwide and include the timeframe your highly selective list spans, you wouldn’t even reach that figure. So anyway; got another website you can [cut and paste](http://www.google.com/search?q=To+ensure+we+Americans+never+offend+anyone&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8) a bunch of rhetoric from, or will you make up some of your own now? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-i-am-a-terrorist-airplane-rant/142131.md?page=5)