# Apparently I'm going to be kicked off the boards (Discourse upcoming incompatibility){New cheap PC posts moved out} **URL:** \ **Category:** Site Feedback\ **Created:** [April 1, 2025, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-im-going-to-be-kicked-off-the-boards-discourse-upcoming-incompatibility-new-cheap-pc-posts-moved-out/1016432 "2025-04-01T00:38:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 64
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> [@New Cheap PC for Windows 11 or supporting Discourse discussion](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/new-cheap-pc-for-windows-11-or-supporting-discourse-discussion/1016577/24): > > Orion seems to work okay - will have test a bit more and can’t get my bookmark bar to show up yet It should be in the View menu → Show Bookmarks Bar. > [@MacDoc](#): > > Cannot see how to edit bookmark names. There does not seem to be a book mark manager or editor. You can see all your bookmarks (and edit them) from the Bookmarks menu → Show Bookmarks. That is their editor. If you have bookmarks imported from other browsers, they might be in a different subfolder. You can drag those into Orion’s bookmark toolbar if you want them available there. If you didn’t import the bookmarks when you first started Orion, you can do so manually: [Importing Data From Other Browsers | Kagi's Docs](https://help.kagi.com/orion/getting-started/importing.html) > [@MacDoc](#): > > Interface on Orion is still buggy It is a new browser, still in public beta, and yes, there will be some UI bugs here and there. It’s not something I would recommend for general everyday use _yet_, but in your specific case and the OP’s, I think it is a better choice than using a completely outdated browser that won’t support modern websites (like legacy Firefox ESR). What we call a web “browser” (like Orion) is a UI wrapper around the underlying rendering engine (in this case Webkit), and it is that rendering engine that ultimately determines a particular site or web app will work correctly. So even if Orion has some minor quirks, if you can get used to them, that should let you use modern websites with fewer issues because the underlying Webkit is the same (or very similar to) the latest Safari’s — which you otherwise wouldn’t be able to get without a new Mac and the latest macOS version. So if you’re stuck on an old computer and old OS, this may be a good choice just because your options are otherwise limited. On a newer computer, no reason (yet) to use that over mainline, updated Firefox. On an older computer, Orion is one of the very few browsers you can still run that has a modern rendering engine, so it’s better than nothing. (And hopefully it’ll get better over time!)a > [@What\_Exit](#): > > **For Mac users,** maybe try downloading the Discourse App from the Apple Store? That is the best I can suggest. I don’t think that will work on older Macs: > Requires macOS 11.0 or later and a **Mac with Apple M1 chip or later.** Too bad ☹ > [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Maybe. I’ll have to look into that. If so, I don’t know whether that might also fix my mail – Frontier handed me to Yahoo and Yahoo then added bells and whistles with the result that Yahoo no longer works with my Mac Mail and I have to use their website version, which I hate, and which they recently made even worse. I think this is one of those situations where you just have to weigh multiple bad options and decide which is the least of all evils ☹ You’re stuck on an old browser and OS on an old computer, and more and more things will continue to break over time. That’s just the sad reality of the tech world we live in, where most of these companies are heavily investor-driven and trying to optimize for profit, like any business. That sometimes means making sacrifices to their least profitable users, often those who are on older computers that take more work to support ☹ The web world moves fast, too fast I’d say, and people will only get increasingly left behind… sigh. It’s annoying, for sure, but what can ya do? Maybe after the passport you can save enough money to get a new (used) M1 Mac Mini? You can find them for $300ish on eBay, which is still a lot of money, but it would be a huge, huge upgrade over your existing machine and buy you a few more years at least. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-im-going-to-be-kicked-off-the-boards-discourse-upcoming-incompatibility-new-cheap-pc-posts-moved-out/1016432)._