# Apparently, it's okay for Republicans to be gun victims (Vegas massacre).

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860 "2017-10-03T11:00:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/61 "2017-10-03T19:50:02Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Ray Benson and Kinky Friedman beg your pardon.

I now have the mental image of **Bricker** sparking a doob and listening to Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jewboys _Get yer biscuits in the oven and yer buns in bed!_

Made my day. Thanks!

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/62 "2017-10-03T19:57:40Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> I’m a left leaning, liberal leaning Democrat and I listen to country music sometimes.
> 
> I suspect this idiot FORMER news clown will be used by Okra, O’Reilly, Alex Jones etc to sell the Vast Liberal False Flag Conspiracy that liberals were behind the shootings, in order to take away their guns (Jones has already started saying this false flag shit AGAIN).
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> I also expected what I’ve been seeing already, the “Now is not the time to discuss gun control” bullshit again. I’m a gun owner and a pro second amendment guy who needs to ask …
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> \*\*WHEN is the right time? \*\*

I suppose that to holders of a certain absolutist 2nd Amendment viewpoint, the right time WAS back in the 18th century,when the inclusion of the amendment was being discussed (the conclusion being that gun control and further discussions of gun control would be forever forbidden).

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/63 "2017-10-03T20:04:46Z")

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I know I am late to this thread, but as a left leaning, Hillary voting, occasional country music listener, I am glad this bitch was fired.

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**Author:** ![Surreal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Surreal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surreal)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/64 "2017-10-03T20:15:20Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> I do hope I’m misunderstanding you…

You most definitely are misunderstanding me.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/65 "2017-10-03T20:21:35Z")

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> [@Surreal](#):
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> You most definitely are misunderstanding me.

Then what was your point about the name?

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/66 "2017-10-03T20:28:44Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Want to try again?

Sure. Curt Schilling was fired one day after his Facebook post reply (which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet).

Jeffrey Lord was fired some hours after his sarcastic tweet. Which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet.

Breitbart news editor was fired [next Monday](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/media/breitbart-editor-fired-tweets.html) after her weekend tweets.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/67 "2017-10-03T20:32:47Z")

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> [@El\_Kabong](#):
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> Who? When and where?
> 
> Also, the person in question wasn’t a reporter.

One of the more disturbing ones I remember reading was one poster thought every Trump voter deserves to be “frog marched” and shot in the head.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/68 "2017-10-03T21:19:31Z")

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> [@Grrr](#):
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> One of the more disturbing ones I remember reading was one poster thought every Trump voter deserves to be “frog marched” and shot in the head.

That was **Siam Sam** [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20204583&postcount=1221):

> [@Siam Sam](#):
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> No decent person did vote for Trump. It is my sincere belief that every single man and woman who voted for Chump ought to be imprisoned for treason, if not frog-marched outside and shot at dawn.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/69 "2017-10-03T21:22:46Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> That was **Siam Sam** [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20204583&postcount=1221):

On the plus side, he _did_ make frog marching option #2.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/70 "2017-10-03T21:55:48Z")

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> [@Surreal](#):
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> If it were a rap concert where someone randomly killed 59 innocent people, and a media person named Travis Connor McWhitey said “I’m not even actually sympathetic because rap fans are often Democratic thugs”, I would assume that person making the statement was very likely racist against African-Americans, in addition to being rabidly anti-Democrat.

It would probably be more along the lines of - and I’m just guessing - “n\*\*\*\*r thugs gunned down in gang battle, and most likely deserved it”

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/71 "2017-10-03T21:56:58Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> We need to wait until we have forgotten the last shooting, otherwise, we may use people being killed as a reason to look for ways of preventing people from being killed.

That is the pattern after all. Rinse and repeat.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Nylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/77aa72/32.png) [@Mr.Nylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Nylock)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/72 "2017-10-03T23:58:40Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Damn good question. I suppose we already know the answer.

The jewish kids in high school used to look down upon me. I’m still bitter about it.  
Actually no, that’s a lie. I’m not really still bitter about that, I’ve got so many other things I’m bitter about that I can’t even remember their names any more. I can’t even remember why I’m bitter. Am I still bitter? Do I just need a snack? Is this normally what happens when you reach middle age?

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/73 "2017-10-04T00:06:15Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> What the hell did Republicans ever do to make this person angry enough to say a thing like this‽

Trump. electing and supporting him. Still, terrible thing to say, and terrible way to think.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/74 "2017-10-04T00:38:52Z")

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Our boffins tell us that, yes, indeed, that asteroid is going right through the center of the Earth, and we are totally boned, with infinitely extreme prejudice. Republican leaders will advance onto the microphones and say “OK, _now_ is the appropriate time to talk about gun control policy!”. And the thanks of a grateful nation…

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/75 "2017-10-04T01:26:37Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Sure. Curt Schilling was fired one day after his Facebook post reply (which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet).

Fair enough, but keep in mind that was not his first offense. He was already on the ropes for previous vile tweets.

> [@](#):
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> Jeffrey Lord was fired some hours after his sarcastic tweet. Which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet.

Another guy already on the edge of being fired when fired. But OK.

> [@](#):
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> Breitbart news editor was fired [next Monday](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/media/breitbart-editor-fired-tweets.html) after her weekend tweets.

[/quote]

The same Breibart that had Milo “resign” after several days after he finally shot himself in the foot with his babyfucker bragging?

Meanwhile we’ve seen dozens of GOP reps stay in power or take forever to leave their jobs after saying all kinds of vile crap in the SRIOTD thread.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/76 "2017-10-04T01:34:59Z")

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I’m not quite sure I’ve got multi-quote working right here, but here’s a selection of what followed **Siam Sam** ’s frog-marching comment. He was called on it. It did not go un-remarked. There may be other hateful comments from liberal posters that did, but this one was rebuffed strongly.

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1227):
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> I have friends and family- not just farthest-righters, but also people I generally consider sensible conservatives- who fall into that category. I find the decision abhorrent, and I’m less than impressed by the reasoning involved- but I still love them and care for them.

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1231):
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> Very healthy, to become the mirror image of a clothahump in reasoning.

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1232):
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> There is so much irony in this asinine statement. I do hope you’re wooshing us.

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1234):
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> Don’t you dare. Don’t you dare say that about people you don’t know. I despise the Annoying Orange as much as anybody- I had basically a nervous breakdown in November- but absolutists like you will ensure the country never heals.
> 
> You’re calling my mother a traitor? You’re calling my father a traitor? You’re calling my best friend a traitor, the girl I practically grew up with, the one who made me an honorary member of her family? How dare you? How dare you.

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1236):
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> Better not invite **Siam Sam** over for family Sunday dinner.  
> Or **Smapti** either, it looks like…  
> Accusations of treason don’t go well with grandma’s broiled brussel sprouts (I speak from experience).

> [@Butt-Hurt Trump Takes to Twitter Again (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/butt-hurt-trump-takes-to-twitter-again-part-1/772428/1239):
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> Agree. If we’re going to claim to be better than his supporters, we should damn well act better.
> 
> The irony is calling people, who exercised their democratic right in a way in which you don’t agree, “traitors who should be shot”. Saying they are the greatest threat to America while calling for them to be shot for not voting for your guy is the epitome of irony.
> 
> I completely despise the orange cheeto and hope he faces obstructionism for the duration of his time in office (send a prayer to the great spaghetti god that it will be short) but calling for the death of his supporters is just as horrible as he is.
> 
> And damn you for making me stick up for trump supporters - barf!!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/77 "2017-10-04T03:34:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Our boffins tell us that, yes, indeed, that asteroid is going right through the center of the Earth, and we are totally boned, with infinitely extreme prejudice. Republican leaders will advance onto the microphones and say “OK, _now_ is the appropriate time to talk about gun control policy!”. And the thanks of a grateful nation…

What a swell Party it is.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/78 "2017-10-04T03:45:51Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> That was **Siam Sam** [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20204583&postcount=1221):
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> No decent person did vote for Trump. It is my sincere belief that every single man and woman who voted for Chump ought to be imprisoned for treason, if not frog-marched outside and shot at dawn.

Well, am right there with you and **Grrr!** on the outrage. That was completely uncalled for, and I will state for the record that absolutely no one should be imprisoned, nor frog-marched outside and shot at dawn, just for voting for Trump.

Smacked across the back of the head a couple times, maybe.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/79 "2017-10-04T05:02:14Z")

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Now, now, violence is not a solution. The most effective punishment for supporting this fiasco should be to have the supporters relieved of their pistols, rifles and any bows they might have. Their reckless disregard for America does not quite rise to the level of a capital crime, but it is clearly felonious.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/80 "2017-10-04T12:46:06Z")

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What hardly anyone noticed is how, in the hours immediately following the massacre in Vegas, right wing trolls falsely accused the ex husband of the shooter’s partner and used his anti-Trump social media posts as evidence that this was anti-conservative politically motivated terrorism. It went away once they realized he wasn’t the trigger man and that it was just some whacked out millionaire sociopath, but it won’t keep them from trying in the future. And don’t think this president and this congress are above trying to pass sedition laws, or variants thereof.

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