# Apparently, it's okay for Republicans to be gun victims (Vegas massacre).

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2017, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860 "2017-10-03T11:00:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/81 "2017-10-04T13:20:14Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Sure. Curt Schilling was fired one day after his Facebook post reply (which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet).
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> Jeffrey Lord was fired some hours after his sarcastic tweet. Which was WAY less offensive than the CBS lawyer’s tweet.
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> Breitbart news editor was fired [next Monday](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/05/business/media/breitbart-editor-fired-tweets.html) after her weekend tweets.

Next you’re going to complain that Todd Akin was robbed of an election because of his “legitimate rape” comments. So unfair!

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/82 "2017-10-04T17:04:15Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Sure.[snip]

I understood the question being who conservatives were fired BY conservatives - meaning that you missed two of these three.  
Maybe _ **I** _ misunderstood as Mr Miskatonic sort of accepted your post. But I \*\*\*still \*\*\*think it was a poor response 😉

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**Author:** ![sciurophobic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cab0a1/32.png) [@sciurophobic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sciurophobic)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/83 "2017-10-04T18:15:35Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> What the hell did Republicans ever do to make this person angry enough to say a thing like this‽

Consistently prevent any amount of reasonable gun control, thus enabling massacres such as this to occur.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/84 "2017-10-04T20:33:27Z")

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I’ll believe Republicans are into country music when somebody plays me a Kitty Wells song about free market economics!

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/85 "2017-10-04T21:36:10Z")

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The Mammon wing of the Republican Party is not into country music. The Dominionist wing of the Republican Party is totally into country music.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/86 "2017-10-04T21:51:29Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> What the hell did Republicans ever do to make this person angry enough to say a thing like this‽

I’ll use this as an opener to provide [the original post](http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no-sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/) in full by the Attorney:

[QUOTE=Former lawyer of CBS, now unemployed]  
If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that the Repugs would ever do the right thing. I’m actually not even sympathetic bc country music fans often are republican gun toters.  
[/QUOTE]  
So the unemployed lawyer was making a point about karma. The response is worth noting, possibly giving some context:  
[QUOTE=Response by facebook discussant]  
Yeah…I was thinking that since this directly hits the country-music population…maybe they will actually do something now. But after Sandy Hook, Republicans reacted by wanting to arm teachers. So lets [sic] see what today’s response is. I’m sure it will be just as pathetic.  
[/QUOTE]

I think the remarks were inappropriate, hyperbolic and a potential firing offense for a media company. I also think they have been somewhat exaggerated: nobody said it was ok for Republicans to be brutally murdered.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/87 "2017-10-04T23:20:07Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> I’ll use this as an opener to provide [the original post](http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/02/cbs-legal-exec-no-sympathy-because-country-music-fans-often-are-republican/) in full by the Attorney:
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> So the unemployed lawyer was making a point about karma. The response is worth noting, possibly giving some context:
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> I think the remarks were inappropriate, hyperbolic and a potential firing offense for a media company. I also think they have been somewhat exaggerated: nobody said it was ok for Republicans to be brutally murdered.

She did get ONE thing right…  
“If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that the Repugs would ever do the right thing”  
They get too much money from the NRA.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/88 "2017-10-04T23:53:12Z")

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Ok, but it’s generally unwise to use the word “Repugs” in a public forum with your name attached. I frankly think the lawyer was blowing off steam, something that is imprudent if you work for a media co and use your real name. Also imprudent anyway, if you are concerned about doxxing.[sup]1[/sup]  
Also, the NRA’s muscle isn’t in their money, IMHO. It’s in their propaganda, and their correspondingly motivated membership base. From an oped piece in today’s NYT:

> [@Hahrie Han](#):
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> Second, gun-control groups focus on persuasion, while gun-rights groups focus on identity. In many ways, my friends and I who disagree on guns are similar. But their views evolved after joining these gun groups. So did their identities. The gun-rights groups were not just persuading them to support gun rights; they were also helping my friends rearticulate their own lives in terms of a broader vision of the future. They were no longer just hunters. They were protectors of a way of life. That is why the N.R.A.’s version of gun rights is so intimately tied to questions of race and identity.
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> When I joined gun-control groups, I got messages about narrowly defined issues like background checks and safety locks. These messages were a pollster’s dream, tested down to the comma to maximize the likelihood that I would donate or take action. But they never challenged me to rethink who I was or what my relationship to my community was.

[https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/opinion/gun-control-nra-vegas.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/04/opinion/gun-control-nra-vegas.html)

[sup]1[/sup] …and so the Pit disappears… 🙂

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**Post date:** [October 5, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/89 "2017-10-05T20:14:19Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> I am actually surprised at this - not because of the sentiment itself, I am sure, with the hatred being fanned by the media and the politicians, a lot of people \*\*thought \*\*the same.
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> But this is a high-priced lawyer, supposedly. **Senior** counsel. Vice President of a huge corporation. How do you get to this position without learning how to self-censor the views you express publicly?

Because some quarters of the twittersphere find hate directed at conservatives perfectly acceptable. I’m sure she still wonders what all the fuss is about. This was a country festival so all the people there were despicables and didn’t count.

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**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/90 "2017-10-06T01:11:33Z")

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Nitpick: It appears to have been a Facebook post. Too many characters.

General point is valid though: virtue signaling and tribalism are ubiquitous on twitter, Facebook and RL.

I’m guessing she groks to her imprudence. She has gone through a familiar but appropriate apology ritual and has unsurprisingly received death threats. Which she doesn’t deserve!

> [@Unemployed Lawyer](#):
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> I am deeply sorry for diminishing the significance of every life affected by Stephen Paddock’s terrorism last night and for the pain my words have inflicted on the loved ones of the victims

She also properly characterized her remarks as shameful and indefensible.

> **[Axed CBS executive hit with death threats over her cold Las Vegas Facebook post](https://www.nydailynews.com/2017/10/04/axed-cbs-executive-hit-with-death-threats-over-her-cold-las-vegas-facebook-post/)**
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> A CBS executive who was fired after posting on Facebook that she’s “not even sympathetic” to the Las Vegas mass shooting victims says she’s getting death threats, according …

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-its-okay-for-republicans-to-be-gun-victims-vegas-massacre/797860/91 "2017-10-06T02:43:19Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> … and has unsurprisingly received death threats…

And without a shred of irony, I’m sure.

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