# Apparently justice Alito is sympathetic to the January 6 rioters

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 18, 2024, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743 "2024-05-18T17:46:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/41 "2024-05-21T11:42:29Z")

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Nitpick- is there really such a thing as Bud Light stock? One would suppose there is Budweiser stock and not stock of a particular product line.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/42 "2024-05-21T12:01:35Z")

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AB-Inbev, probably.

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**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/43 "2024-05-21T18:24:07Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Going a little off topic here, but I’ve said before the top priority we should have in this country is enacting a voting rights amendment.

Pardon me for asking, but what, exactly, should be in this “voting rights amendment”? Specifics are preferred over generalities. Also remember that you cannot change the composition of the Senate, unless you change it to something where every state still gets the same number of Senators. (Changing the Constitution to say that the Senate has no say in how laws are passed, on the other hand…)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/44 "2024-05-21T21:17:13Z")

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Here’s the general rules I’d like to see Constitutionally protected.

1. Democratic outcomes to all elections. Whoever gets the most votes wins the election.

2. Everyone’s vote is counted equally. Nobody gets to have a bigger vote.

3. No block voting. Everyone’s vote will be counted individually. People won’t be grouped together and treated as if they had all cast a single vote.

4. Every citizen will have a Constitutional Right to Vote. They cannot lose this right except at the completion of a due process hearing. (In other words, no broad sweeping of election rolls and then telling people they have to appeal to get their names back on.) Also any proposed law which might have the effect of limiting voting shall be subject to a strict scrutiny standard. And this Right to Vote would be explicitly incorporated to the states.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/45 "2024-05-21T21:28:21Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> But too many in Congress (even on his own side) cried “Foul!” at the idea, so he let the plan die and took subsequent Ls (and Ws) as they came.

The part I would question is that Roosevelt let the plan die.

Roosevelt proposed packing the Court after the 1936 election. As you note, many Democrats joined in opposing this plan and it never happened. But Roosevelt didn’t just let it go. In the 1938 election, he tried to push new FDR loyalist Democratic candidates that he hoped would beat the incumbent Democrats that hadn’t supported him as he had wished.

The plan was a disaster. The incumbent Democrats had stronger control of their districts than Roosevelt had and his replacement candidates didn’t get nominated. And the attempt to oust those Democrats understandably caused a lot of ill will among them towards Roosevelt.

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**Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/46 "2024-05-21T21:29:18Z")

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Maybe if we took to the streets in protest in high enough numbers for long enough to notice?

I’d certainly be willing.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/47 "2024-05-22T21:09:56Z")

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“Sir. There’s another Alito flag.”

[![Imgur](https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53739806101_8981f9fbbb_b.jpg "Bush, 911") ](https://www.flickr.com/photos/68782016@N08/53739806101/)

> <https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1793387343849939317?t=YzTnbUdqCqzg-M5PlniSRA&s=19>

Man, it’s almost like the guy saying Trump can’t be prosecuted for the insurrection was in favor of the insurrection. 🤔

> **[Another Provocative Flag Was Flown at Another Alito Home](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/22/us/justice-alito-flag-appeal-to-heaven.html)**
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> The justice’s beach house displayed an “Appeal to Heaven” flag, a symbol carried on Jan. 6 and associated with a push for a more Christian-minded government.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/48 "2024-05-22T21:20:12Z")

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Boggles my mind how these people get lifetime appointments with god-like powers and virtually no way to hold them accountable.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/49 "2024-05-22T21:45:20Z")

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“You would think that a Supreme Court justice had more wisdom, more sense than to do that.”  
Forevermore a dead and buried sentiment.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WChTqYlDjtI/maxresdefault.jpg "Taps") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WChTqYlDjtI)

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/50 "2024-05-22T23:02:35Z")

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A SCOTUS Judge has an ‘Appeal to Heaven’ flag outside his house.

OK. He’s insane. Got it.

I guess he missed the whole separation of church and state thing which is one of the pillars that our country was founded on.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/51 "2024-05-22T23:15:50Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I guess he missed the whole separation of church and state thing which is one of the pillars that our country was founded on.

They’ve already been chipping away diligently at that. Several court cases have been blurring that line.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/52 "2024-05-22T23:16:44Z")

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Exactly right. It’s one of their main objectives.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/53 "2024-05-22T23:41:05Z")

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To the maga crowd, the First Amendment gives you the freedom to choose between both religions - Catholic and Protestant.

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**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/54 "2024-05-22T23:42:57Z")

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No.

Baptist OR Methodist.

Catholics aren’t real Christians.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/55 "2024-05-22T23:47:46Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Catholics aren’t real Christians.

All six of the Republican justices are Catholic, though. Ketanji Brown Jackson is the only Protestant on the court.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/56 "2024-05-22T23:49:17Z")

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I was making fun of how they eat their own. Many Evangelicals and Protestants think the Catholic Church lost its way and isn’t really Christian.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/57 "2024-05-22T23:50:31Z")

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> [@OldOlds](#):
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> Many Evangelicals and Protestants think the Catholic Church lost its way and isn’t really Christian.

Oh, I know. My late grandma believed Pope John Paul II was a Satanist, even though she otherwise had no problem with Catholicism and loved the stations of the cross.

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**Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/58 "2024-05-22T23:56:40Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> I guess he missed the whole separation of church and state thing which is one of the pillars that our country was founded on.

He didn’t miss it. He just wants to throw it in the trash and establish a theocracy. He’s literally anti-American.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/59 "2024-05-23T07:38:23Z")

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> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> > [@enipla](#):
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> > I guess he missed the whole separation of church and state thing which is one of the pillars that our country was founded on.
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> They’ve already been chipping away diligently at that. Several court cases have been blurring that line.

I’ve heard this one:

> That’s just an amendment. It’s not part of the original constitution!

Let that sink in for a moment.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-justice-alito-is-sympathetic-to-the-january-6-rioters/1001743/60 "2024-05-23T12:26:43Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> “Sir. There’s another Alito flag.”

Clever analogy. Og help me, I laughed.

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