# Apparently Republican women do not want to be kept barefoot and pregnant.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 22, 2015, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539 "2015-01-22T01:15:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/41 "2015-01-23T02:43:48Z")

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OK, so, well, you went there. Not saying I would not have, but I didn’t. \*Maybe \*I would have. Didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/42 "2015-01-23T03:31:20Z")

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> [@Sitnam](#):
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> The rape clause is just strange to me anyway. If a person believed a fetus deserves all the legal protection a new born does the reason it exists in the first place is irrelevant.
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> Like the high treason exception those against Capital Punishment are willing to concede too. It’s either morally justifiable or it isn’t.

It’s an “art of the possible” compromise. With the exception, enough more people favor a ban as to make it politically feasible. Without the exception, that support drops away, and a bill can’t get passed.

If you can save some, but can’t save all, do you accept the limitation and save those you can save…or do you quit in dismay because you couldn’t save all?

(I’m pro-choice…and anti-capital punishment. I’ll accept the treason exception, because it will still prevent some executions. “The perfect is the enemy of the good.”)

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/43 "2015-01-23T04:08:53Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> OK, so, well, you went there. Not saying I would not have, but I didn’t. \*Maybe \*I would have. Didn’t.

And you’ll always have that.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/44 "2015-01-23T04:12:51Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> It’s an “art of the possible” compromise. With the exception, enough more people favor a ban as to make it politically feasible. Without the exception, that support drops away, and a bill can’t get passed.

But you are still willing to kill the unborn. 🙂

My Rabbi told me that life begins when the dog dies and the kids go to college.  
When pressed, he explained that in Jewish thought, life begins when you see the baby’s head just before birth.

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/45 "2015-01-23T04:29:26Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> But you are still willing to kill the unborn. 🙂

Weeellllll . . . not if I can’t make them suffer.

It’s hardly worth it, otherwise.

**Please** tell me they suffer! ☹

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/46 "2015-01-23T15:05:18Z")

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I’ll take Republican thoughts on the sanctity of unborn life seriously when they demonstrate that they give a rat’s ass about the kid once it’s born.

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**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/47 "2015-01-23T15:32:52Z")

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I have a bone to pick with the OP. It’s not about the intent, it’s about the execution. I’m not trying to be the Emily of Posts, here, but still. The etiquette is pretty fucking lacking.

**carnivorousplant** , you posted a “here’s a link, what ya’ think?” thread. Those are annoying because the reader doesn’t immediately know what is being linked to. I was very much able to guess that you didn’t like something about Republicans and women from the title, but you need to flesh out _what_ and _why_ in the OP. Second, I can mouse over the link, and see that it directs me to a CNN article with a subtitle about abortion, but I shouldn’t have to do your work for you. You should explain from the get go why you are displeased.

And then… the link is to an autoplay video! Goddamit, **carnivorousplant**. Bad form. You managed to put two annoying behaviors in one OP.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/48 "2015-01-23T15:43:11Z")

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I haven’t read the link, but I like to walk around barefoot, even though I don’t get to do it very often. Does that make me more or less pro-Republican pregnancies?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/49 "2015-01-23T16:16:43Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> When pressed, he explained that in Jewish thought, life begins when you see the baby’s head just before birth.

Even in the case of a stillborn?

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/50 "2015-01-23T16:54:08Z")

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IANAJew, but I think in that case, the baby is considered to have never had a life in the first place. Yes? No?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/51 "2015-01-23T17:18:20Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> When it comes to the “barefoot” part, I’m definitely pro-shoe.

Dunnow, in the house I’m all for barefoot or wearing sneakers…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/52 "2015-01-23T17:34:00Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> Even in the case of a stillborn?

I should think not. 🙂

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/53 "2015-01-23T17:53:39Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> IANAJew, but I think in that case, the baby is considered to have never had a life in the first place. Yes? No?

IANARabbi, but I would guess that you are correct.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/54 "2015-01-23T17:56:17Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I haven’t read the link, but I like to walk around barefoot, even though I don’t get to do it very often. Does that make me more or less pro-Republican pregnancies?

No, like me, that makes you pro-barefoot.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/55 "2015-01-23T18:58:41Z")

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> [@Hector\_St\_Clare](#):
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> Actually, Republican women are more pro-life than Republican men, and Democratic women are more pro-life then Democratic men.
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> [Men have been more pro-choice over the past 30 years, by Razib Khan - The Unz Review](http://www.unz.com/gnxp/men-have-been-more-pro-choice-over-the-past-30-years/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=men-have-been-more-pro-choice-over-the-past-30-years&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)

That cite is only talking about white people, for reasons that are not explained.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/56 "2015-01-23T19:38:12Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That cite is only talking about white people, for reasons that are not explained.

Cause they’re the only ones that matter, amirite? High five! Anyone? 😉

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/57 "2015-01-23T19:58:01Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> That cite is only talking about white people, for reasons that are not explained.

Wow. I was wondering why those numbers looked so strange to me. Maybe that’s why. I missed that part.

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**Author:** ![Lance\_Turbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lance_turbo/32/6156_2.png) [@Lance\_Turbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lance_Turbo)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/58 "2015-01-23T20:01:10Z")

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If you look [here](http://www.gallup.com/poll/162548/americans-misjudge-abortion-views.aspx) and scroll to the bottom of the page you can see that in general women are more pro-choice than men according to Gallup.

I typed the numbers on the charts into Excel and did some deeper analysis.

There is an upward trend for both men and women in pro-life minus pro-choice, but that upward trend is greater for men.

So the gap between men’s and women’s views (pro-life men - pro-choice men - pro-life women + pro-choice women) is trending up.

In summary, according to Gallup, in the 21st century, men are more pro-life than women and that gap is growing.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/59 "2015-01-23T20:13:23Z")

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So Coulter’s maxim that giving women the vote being a huge mistake is proven yet again. And she would know.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-republican-women-do-not-want-to-be-kept-barefoot-and-pregnant/710539/60 "2015-01-23T20:22:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> Wow. I was wondering why those numbers looked so strange to me. Maybe that’s why. I missed that part.

I am not saying the exclusion of minorities would affect the distribution as I don’t have time to look up the GSS data myself. I just found it odd that the author of that piece arbitrarily excluded non-whites.

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