Apparently saying "all lives matter" is racist according to a BLM's co-founder.

[The_Other_Waldo_Pepper]

@Reluctant_A

So, I stipulate that I haven’t been around here very long, relatively speaking, but I feel like I’ve been around long enough to have made the observation that this course of action is not a particularly fruitful one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an intelligent, well-articulated, reasonable argument that involved any tenets that resembled, “I believe doorhinge.”

I’m saying that, given anyone who (a) claims to believe that all lives matter; and, (b) if asked whether that means “all lives, including black lives, matter” – which is already literally true, but, sure, let’s get express clarification – will agree that, yes, “all lives matter” means “all lives, including black lives, matter”…

…well, what more can I plausibly ask? If you don’t find him believable, then you presumably still won’t find him believable if he says that black lives matter, right? It seems like you didn’t believe him when he said that all lives matter; like you don’t believe him when he says that all lives – including black lives – matter; I’d go 3-for-3 on taking him at his word, but why would you suddenly take him seriously?

[The_Other_Waldo_Pepper]

@Reluctant_A

Surprisingly, people aren’t willing to publicly go on the record and self-identify as racist.

Well, yeah; I wouldn’t expect them to publicly disagree with the belief that all lives, including black lives, matter. Still, there’s this:

Point you to whom, the people who come into my store on a daily basis? Shall I ask them to register on the Dope, so you can hear it straight from them, or would you prefer their telephone numbers?

Again, trusting sort that I am, I’ll presumably believe you: just relay to me how folks express the sentiment that all lives matter, and then helpfully clarify that they of course don’t mean to imply that they’re including black lives when they talk that way, because that would just be crazy, and, hey. all apologies if you inferred that.

[Asimovian]

@Reluctant_A

Oookay… So, I stipulate that I haven’t been around here very long, relatively speaking, but I feel like I’ve been around long enough to have made the observation that this course of action is not a particularly fruitful one. I don’t think I’ve ever seen an intelligent, well-articulated, reasonable argument that involved any tenets that resembled, “I believe doorhinge.”

This thread has enough contentiousness in it without turning to personal insults. That way lies the Pit. Let’s leave it out of here.

[bobot]

@The_Other_Waldo_Pepper

What responses are acceptable if someone tells me that all lives matter?

“Yes, they do.” is also a good response to this. Unless the statement was in response to “Black lives matter”, in which case a slap with a fish should accompany “Yes they do.”