# Apparently the new thing is to claim that Republicans never insulted Obama

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 23, 2017, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602 "2017-02-23T23:52:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/21 "2017-02-24T15:08:24Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Well, the media surrey trump put out

surrey from the fringe?

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/22 "2017-02-24T15:14:42Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> That’s not the same as your thread title. IMHO neither side has much - if any - credit.

Yes, it is. Why do you keep lying?

That’s why we call you a Trump supporter. You keep lying in every situation where people point out something bad about Trump or his supporters.

When you can lie with things right in your face, we have no reason to believe you’re not lying about not supporting Trump.

If you don’t support him, you wouldn’t feel the need to make up shit to attack all the liberals every time they point out something bad about him or his followers.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/23 "2017-02-24T15:17:32Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I’d lay good money that no mainstream Republican source has ever claimed any such thing.

Can we define “mainstream”? Would it count if a pundit appearing on Fox News did so, for example, and was not challenged by the reporter?

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/24 "2017-02-24T15:31:57Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> The variation I’ve heard is that liberals need to shut up because they suffered under Obama for eight years.

Yep. I’ve been told this and that I’m a snowflake living in a bubble for pointing out Trump’s BS.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/25 "2017-02-24T16:44:57Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Yes, it is. Why do you keep lying?

You used the word ‘never’ in your title. That differs from your post.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/26 "2017-02-24T16:49:24Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Just spent some time on a friend’s FB page where both he and another friend were moaning about how the Democrats are insulting Trump and claiming that the Republicans never treated Obama that way. :rolleyes:
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> …

Your friends sound like they have inverted, shaken Etch-A-Sketches where their brains should be.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/27 "2017-02-24T16:57:59Z")

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Republicans insulting Obama, from the birth certificate affair / Kenyan jibe onwards, is well-attested. It made the Republicans look like whining losers. The same cannot be said for all the Democrats’ insults of Trump: the ‘small hands’ stuff is just lame, but Trump’s habit of lying should be lampooned loud and often.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/28 "2017-02-24T18:05:09Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> surrey from the fringe?

I hate you and will until the day I die. Or at least until I hit submit. 😉

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/29 "2017-02-24T18:08:48Z")

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What you have to remember about Republicans is that the only words of theirs that matter are the ones coming out of their mouths right now.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/30 "2017-02-24T18:18:02Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> You used the word ‘never’ in your title. That differs from your post.

I thought I might ask an expert on the subject: Is it supposed to be hyphenated?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/31 "2017-02-24T18:18:09Z")

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> [@raventhief](#):
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> Well, the media surrey trump put out seems to imply that Repubs never treated Obama badly, and if they had, surely the media would have called that out, the way they are not calling Democrats treating Trump badly.
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> Sorry if that’s a little hard to parse.
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> Here’s the actual question:
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> Do you believe that if Republicans were obstructing Obama like Democrats are doing to President Trump, the mainstream media would attack Republicans?

Yeah, I took the survey, for funsies.

When I got to that question, I thought, "You know, 2009 wasn’t that long ago. The obstruction happened. (For instance, they blocked the confirmation of the quite uncontroversial head of my quite uncontroversial federal agency for over a year before letting him through.) And the media was basically ‘ho hum, that’s how Republicans are. BFD’ "

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/32 "2017-02-24T18:43:43Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Can we define “mainstream”?

“Mainstream” apparently means a couple of people the OP claims to know on FaceBook.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/33 "2017-02-24T18:45:27Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> surrey from the fringe?

Surrey down to a stoned soul picnic?

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**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/34 "2017-02-24T18:48:50Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> …the ‘small hands’ stuff is just lame…

Nah. It goes back to the 1980s. Grayon Carter and SPY magazine. “Short Fingered Vulgarian.”

It’s classic stuff, like Mozart.

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**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/35 "2017-02-24T19:00:13Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Just spent some time on a friend’s FB page where both he and another friend were moaning…

**Facebook | Tools | Settings | Security | Deactivate Your Account**

The near-universal cure for drowning in pointless bullshit.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/36 "2017-02-24T19:57:26Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> “Mainstream” apparently means a couple of people the OP claims to know on FaceBook.
> 
> Regards,  
> Shodan

Not a word I used in the OP, but that sort of thing has never stopped you before.

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**Author:** ![Sterling\_Archer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Sterling\_Archer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sterling_Archer)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/37 "2017-02-24T21:31:02Z")

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The majority of the right is simply not worth talking to anymore. Once they have given over their mind to Big Brother, you’re not going to bring them back. It’s up to them to bring themselves back to reality.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2017, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-the-new-thing-is-to-claim-that-republicans-never-insulted-obama/780602/38 "2017-02-24T21:35:11Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Not a word I used in the OP, but that sort of thing has never stopped you before.

Be fair. \*\*Shodan \*\*hasn’t dismissed the “leftist hive mind” in a \*long \*time.

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