# Apparently there's one thing that can change some anti-vaxxers' minds **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [September 10, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496 "2021-09-10T23:47:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bootb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e19b73/32.png) [@Bootb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootb)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/1 "2021-09-10T23:47:16Z")
This is an interesting story. I would be interested in knowing whether anybody on this board has any success using this video. > **[A nurse's viral video of beeping ICU alarms persuaded unvaccinated people to...](https://www.insider.com/nurses-viral-tiktok-persuades-people-to-get-vaccinated-2021-9)** > > Mae Rice's video went viral. In the comments, dozens of people said they got vaccinated thanks to her. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/2 "2021-09-11T00:43:49Z")
People do often need to see to believe. I’m now reading Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II. It relates how in, in training, Japanese-Americans from Hawaii berated, and even beat up, Japanese-Americans from the U.S. west coast for their gloomy attitude. Hawaiian soldiers thought that the relocation camps (from which Hawaiian families were exempt) couldn’t really be that bad, and maybe were mythical. After punishing guys for fighting failed to end the rivalry, the officers and chaplains decided to put Hawaiian guys on buses so they could go visit an actual camp. The encounter with a terrible reality worked to bring the unit together. My only question is whether a video ICU tour can do what an in-person visit, were it possible, would do. It looks like, sometimes, yes. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/3 "2021-09-11T03:27:17Z")
I showed this video to a friend who, up until a few months ago, was working as a respiratory therapist in a local hospital system and he confirms that yup, it’s just like that. He quit his job after just getting sick and tired of stupid anti vaxxers and COVID deniers behaving the way they do, up to and including trying to rush the ER doors in big unmasked groups trying to prove something. He says he gets calls and messages on a weekly basis from other RTs looking to change jobs, trying to find out if there’s anyplace that sucks less than where they are. There’s a fierce reckoning coming when the existing health care professionals walk out en masse from burnout. Sure hope the National Guard has enough medics to staff all the hospitals. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/4 "2021-09-11T03:50:13Z")
To be persuasive, you gotta connect on a visceral/lizard-brain level. This video does it in a way no amount of pie charts or percentage figures could. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/5 "2021-09-11T10:20:01Z")
Does anyone have a link to the video? My google-fu is weak this morning. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/6 "2021-09-11T10:44:38Z")
But why did this one work, as opposed to video after video from dying right wing anti-mask/anti-vaxxers saying “_Uh, actually, I was wrong - get the vaccine because I can’t fucking breathe now_”? It’s a nice story but it seems click-baity non-story to me. I suspect that there are a growing number of people who are finally coming to the realization that maybe vaccination is a good idea after all, but it’s too late. The damage is pretty much done. ---
**Author:** ![Kimera757](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimera757/32/3765_2.png) [@Kimera757](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimera757)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/7 "2021-09-11T15:20:28Z")
I need the link too. I cannot get past the paywall/adwall. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/8 "2021-09-11T15:33:04Z")
The link is in the story: https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/6998078138420890886 Not a great video, IMO, but I’m also not the target audience. ---
**Author:** ![racer72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/racer72/32/3075_2.png) [@racer72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/racer72)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/9 "2021-09-11T16:04:22Z")
Showed the video to my wife. She thought it would make a great PSA for TV stations. Sent the link to the 4 local network stations to see if they think so. ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/10 "2021-09-11T21:24:42Z")
The reminds me of some of the “stop smoking” ads I saw years ago, where people with lung or throat cancer from smoking are talking about things like adjusting to living after a laryngectomy. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/11 "2021-09-11T22:35:51Z")
I had just over 300 patients who refused repeatedly to be vaccinated over the last 6+ months, after multiple sessions of education by nurses and sometimes by me, and also by peers and other interventional/instructional programs on the topic. Late last month, they were offered $100 each if they’d get vaccinated (so was every other unvaccinated adult in my state). Approximately 100 of them agreed to, and got the vaccination. So in my experience, 1 out of 3 incarcerated refusers will change their mind for money. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/12 "2021-09-11T23:27:47Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > So in my experience, 1 out of 3 incarcerated refusers will change their mind for money. I guess it would be pretty ironic if they started ranting about their “freedoms to do what I want” ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2021, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/13 "2021-09-11T23:42:14Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > So in my experience, 1 out of 3 incarcerated refusers will change their mind for money. I’ll bet another 1/3 would have done it for $200. ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/14 "2021-09-12T01:47:04Z")
My school district has offered a $500 incentive to get vaccinated. I would love to know 1) how many of us are vaccinated and 2) how many scheduled a shot after the incentive was announced. There are 22k employees, so a good sample size. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/15 "2021-09-12T02:46:35Z")
“I have my principles!” (offer of $200 to shred your principles) “Woooo! I have $200!” ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/16 "2021-09-12T21:04:43Z")
Let me just say, after some of the crap Wisconsin politicians have pulled, I am pleasantly surprised that the $100 offer truly applied to everyone, including convicts. I’m assuming some of them used the new funds for purchases from the prison commissary - wonder if any particular item was so in demand it ran out? ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/17 "2021-09-12T22:32:55Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > I’m assuming some of them used the new funds for purchases from the prison commissary - wonder if any particular item was so in demand it ran out? Probably Honey Buns or other Little Debbie product. The food items are most popular on canteen, and most inmates will forego buying hygiene products (we do supply basic soap and toothpaste) in order to get their favorite snack. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/18 "2021-09-13T00:01:29Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > most inmates will forego buying hygiene products (we do supply basic soap and toothpaste) in order to get their favorite snack. To be fair, I do this, and I’m not even incarcerated. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/19 "2021-09-13T00:08:16Z")
I **want** to buy Little Debbies, but I don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496/20 "2021-09-13T01:58:04Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > Probably Honey Buns or other Little Debbie product. It was a new low point in my aging process when I realized Little Debbie oatmeal creme pies have now become just a little too cloyingly sweet for me to tolerate. I used to love that nutritionless garbage 😆. What happened to those glorious time around age 12 when I could eat a couple of pounds of sugar and then turn around for more? Sad days, sad days… [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apparently-theres-one-thing-that-can-change-some-anti-vaxxers-minds/950496.md?page=2)