# 'Appetite for Destruction' or 'Nevermind'? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 13, 2012, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688 "2012-04-13T19:12:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/41 "2012-04-14T16:14:07Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > I’m not familiar with his writings, and it’s too much to Google right now..care to succinctly state your case? > > Oh, and don’t I wish? That’d be sweet. Klosterman has an only-slightly apologetic love for hair, heavy and pop metal, and AfD (whatever metal category it falls into) is one of his absolute favorites. On the other hand he likes to take passing swipes at Nevermind and Nirvana whenever he can…I can’t recall if he uses the word overrated, but the intent is there. I thought of him in particular because I’d bet both fall into his top 5 album mentions. ---
**Author:** ![Jamicat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jamicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jamicat)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/42 "2012-04-15T17:05:13Z")
I picked RUSH. GnR was a hybrid of Aerosmith and 80’s Hairband, a departure from the corporate rock that was being digested on the radio at the time. Nirvana was a sloppy unpolished garageband that kids could relate to, just pure angst and nothing more. There was and still is plenty of room on the airwaves for diversity, but music is a business and they want to sell what they want to sell, to make the most money as possible, and don’t give a rats ass about what might actually be good. The last popular tune I liked on the radio that was part of the music from the 80’s, was “You Oughta Know”, 1995. I was there, I heard the change and I stopped listening to the radio because of the non diversity, and pure BULLSHIT they kept feeding the listeners. It all became the era of “One Hit Wonders” from then on…not exclusively, but you know what I mean. ☹ (I should say I liked quite a few things including GnR and Nirvana, Bush, Pearl Jam, ect…but it took away the stuff I REALLY like) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/43 "2012-04-15T22:27:32Z")
> [@Jamicat](#): > > Nirvana was a sloppy unpolished garageband that kids could relate to, just pure angst and nothing more. Yeah, that’s definitely not true. They weren’t playing complicated stuff, but Cobain wrote a lot of very strong melodies and Grohl was a hell of a drummer. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2012, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/44 "2012-04-15T23:00:51Z")
> [@Lilacs](#): > > Plus they really pissed of Metallica and that’s always a plus. I dunno about Metallica being pissed about Nirvana, but Billy Corgan is another matter. Cobain stole his girl AND his limelight. P.S. Any more references to \*Bush \*and/or _Alanis Morrisette_ and I will direct my vomit in the direction of the offenders. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/45 "2012-04-16T00:24:14Z")
I’m gonna vote for _Nevermind_, as it had far more of an impact, although I like both albums. (I was always more of a Pearl Jam fan though) And Rush sucks. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/46 "2012-04-16T02:49:47Z")
Both of those albums are quintessential rock albums for their respective decades. I love both of them dearly, and have spun them more than the tires on my car. I need to think on this one more, dayum. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/47 "2012-04-16T02:57:42Z")
Just an observation, but _AfD_ was ahead by a couple votes going in to the weekend. As the weekend progressed, _Nevermind_ took a solid lead, and Rush is making a respectable showing. It means, something, I’m just not sure what 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/48 "2012-04-16T03:09:05Z")
> [@voltaire](#): > > Billy Corgan is another matter. Cobain stole his girl AND his limelight. Who do you think came out ahead in that exchange? ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/49 "2012-04-16T03:53:20Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Who do you think came out ahead in that exchange? Dave Grohl. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/50 "2012-04-16T04:00:14Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Yeah, that’s definitely not true. They weren’t playing complicated stuff, but Cobain wrote a lot of very strong melodies and Grohl was a hell of a drummer. I agree. If you think Nirvana were a “sloppy garage band,” then I’d love to hear what garage bands you’re listening to. ---
**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/51 "2012-04-16T04:11:54Z")
AfD was the album that sucked me into dirtier hard rock, swilling whiskey and smoking/toking, rather than wearing makeup and hairspray. I was smack dab in middle school, and it’s what finally got me to start buying music, and looking for more. But Nevermind came when I graduated HS, and railroaded rock into a direction that took itself seriously, after the whole glam phase. They rebooted rock into something to take seriously and experiment with again, like we discovered during the 60s and 70s (basically, when the Beatles started using drugs) – I blame Disco. So, Nevermind. Sorry, GnR. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/52 "2012-04-16T11:27:30Z")
> [@Lilacs](#): > > Both had influence, but Nirvana broke the barrier. Plus they really pissed of Metallica and that’s always a plus. I don’t this anyone outside of Shawn Fanning pissed Metallica off more than G&R. ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/53 "2012-04-16T11:30:02Z")
> [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > I don’t this anyone outside of Shawn Fanning pissed Metallica off more than G&R. Napster? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2012, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688/54 "2012-04-16T12:14:48Z")
> [@Sicks\_Ate](#): > > Napster? Jethro Tull ftw. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/appetite-for-destruction-or-nevermind/618688.md?page=2)