# Apple "people" suck!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 9, 2001, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161 "2001-01-09T15:31:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![Gozu\_Tashoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7993a0/32.png) [@Gozu\_Tashoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gozu_Tashoya)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/21 "2001-01-10T01:23:48Z")

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Great story Soul! 😃

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**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/22 "2001-01-10T06:48:20Z")

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Don’t ever ask about sound processing or 3D software for PCs in the presence of Mac fanatics. They will take it upon themselves to tell you that you can’t do that on PCs and you need to buy a Mac. This happened in these forums a couple of months ago.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/23 "2001-01-10T14:04:11Z")

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There ya go **rjung** , you just had to help prove my point. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/24 "2001-01-10T20:53:43Z")

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> \*Originally posted by soulsling \*  
> \*\*There ya go **rjung** , you just had to help prove my point. :rolleyes: \*\*

Well, I can’t help it if you have poor taste in subject titles. 🙂

(Tip o’ the Day: Replace the word “Apple” with the name of any ethnic, national, or religious group. Then **don’t** use that as a thread subject)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/25 "2001-01-10T22:04:14Z")

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> \*Originally posted by rjung \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by soulsling \*  
> > \*\*There ya go **rjung** , you just had to help prove my point. :rolleyes: \*\*
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> Well, I can’t help it if you have poor taste in subject titles. 🙂
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> (Tip o’ the Day: Replace the word “Apple” with the name of any ethnic, national, or religious group. Then **don’t** use that as a thread subject)  
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You must be kidding. Are you seriously suggesting that his use of “Apple people” to describe **people** working in an **Apple** store - followed, I might add, by a story that didn’t even remotely suggest his complaints referred to Apple end users - is equivalent to actual offensive racial slurs? Are you even implying that such an innocuous phrase is the same as uttering filthy lies about blacks, Jews, etc.?

Good Lord, what’s next? PC users demanding they be covered by hate crime legislation? UNIX adherents lobbying for UNIX command lines to be taught as a second language? Right-wing fundies demanding a return to Commodore 64s? The Million Mac March?

This is IMHO, and so here are My Humble Opinions:

1. If you are offended by the term “Apple people,” you spend too much time on the damned computer. You may insert equivalent titles for Wintel users and it’s still true.

2. What computer you use is not a basis for a civil rights complaint.

3. To compare the Apple-Wintel Computer/OS Holy War to racial or ethnic discrimination is just dumb.

4. “Apple people” or “PC people” are not identifiable groups deserving of collective respect and non-offensive language sops any more than, say “Westinghouse toaster people” or “People who still don’t own DVD players.” I mean, give us a break.

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**Author:** ![soulsling](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@soulsling](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/soulsling)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/26 "2001-01-10T22:25:48Z")

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**RickJay** , you have a better way with words than I do. Never was my strong point.

**rjung** , no. Because using the term “Apple People” in no way relates to any indigenous type of anyone.  
If it does, where exactly did you (because of your vehement defensive nature on “Apple People” it’s understood by me at least that you consider yourself one…) come from? I’ve never heard of the land of “Apple People”. What type of culture exists there? Please, I’ll phone up the archeologists and the Smithsonian and get them on this right away, this new discovery of a land with indigenous Apple People must be understood better! :rolleyes:

If you do consider yourself one of these people **rjung** , do you also consider yourself elite to anyone else?  
Are you so special because of the type of computer you use?  
What rights should we allow the “Apple People” since they are obviously being treated so unfairly…? C’mon guy!  
Give it up! You are taking something as insult personally that was never an insult to anyone other than the type of person that pretends that being a Mac User is all there is to life and no one else is important. Enough so that the behavior of such a person is one where they are rude to others, scoff at others, and fear constant rejection from the rest of the world that is not “Mac”.

If you are one of those people, then I apologize for all this, and I truly do mean the insult towards you as well, but only if you really are one of the “Apple People”.

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**Author:** ![occ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@occ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/occ)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2001, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/27 "2001-01-11T02:14:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AHunter3 \*  
> \*\*I notice you’re in NYC. Don’t know where you went, but wherever it is, it isn’t the only show in town. Try TekServe: 155 West 23 Street 4th Floor between 6 and 7 Ave. (although they do use the “take a number” system, there are benches to sit down on, reading material freely available (decent stuff, too), and no Barbie-&-Ken-doll types waiting on you, just geeks with Torx screwdrivers and VRAM modules sticking out of their pockets.
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This may be less Apple’s fault than the geographic area you’re in. There’s a transplanted NYC electronics store in my town, and they too use the “Take A Number” system. You wanna get a piece of software out of the case? Take a number, my friend! It’s all kind of stupid, and the store’s reknowned amongst people I know for being run by scam artists, to boot. Don’t give your money to people like this.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2001, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apple-people-suck/49161/28 "2001-01-11T02:15:50Z")

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> _Originally posted by soulsling \*  
> **rjung** , no. Because using the term “Apple People” in no way relates to any indigenous type of anyone._\*

I know, but _some_ people may take it as such. Judging from the responses you got initially, it’s a nontrivial number.

And remember, it wasn’t “Apple people,” it was “Apple ‘people’” – a form of punctuation that could be interpreted as meaning that Apple users were not people at all. (“Look at Frank! What an insensitive jerk! That’s the kind of behavior you get from sub-human UNIX ‘people’…”)

Bottom line: A well-crafted sentence could’ve saved a bit of a headache. 😉

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