# Apprentic 10/28/04 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 28, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675 "2004-10-28T15:09:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/1 "2004-10-28T15:09:18Z")
Okay – it’s everyone’s favorite day of the week! Tonight, the teams promote the NYPD. Kind of a weird task – I wonder what it will involve. (“Got a stiff on the sidewalk? Got a bum to roust? Got hookers on the corner? Call us!”) (And, BTW, we never got around to discussing last week’s task as an assignment – “do something involving dogs” – WTF? No sponsors available?) It seems like kind of a weird way to tie in the city government, but I’m not sure what other department they could have used that would have made more sense from both a business and TV point of view. So – Mosaic or Apex? Will Andy’s string of luck run out? or Maria’s? Who’s going tonight? And what happens to make this Board Room unique in the annals of Apprenticedom? ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/2 "2004-10-28T15:37:54Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > And what happens to make this Board Room unique in the annals of Apprenticedom? Probably nothing. None of the other promos have panned out. “Don’t annoy George?” Was George annoyed? I sure didn’t see it. Or maybe, two people will be fired this week. They started with 18 instead of 16. Does anyone know if the season will run longer or if there will be some multi-firing weeks, a la Survivor? (And I’m guessing Andy will get the boot. He’s been pretty ineffective, and has only hung around because Trump was interested in him. Another big screw-up, and he’s gone.) ---
**Author:** ![Mullinator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@Mullinator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mullinator)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/3 "2004-10-28T17:04:21Z")
I’ll guess that whoever is the leader that inspires mid-task rebellion will get fired. Whether it is deserved or not, the firings so far seem more focused on “No one else likes this person so they can’t be a good leader” as opposed to “This person sucks monkey chow in general and I’d rather throw them off of Trump Tower but that’s illegal”. I’ll guess Ivana for no good reason other than the fact that so far on this show she has come across as an annoying, incorrectly judgmental poor sport who would rather blame a 3rd party than take any responsibility for her own shortcomings. The great thing is you can put any females name other then Jenn M. in the above statement and it works. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/4 "2004-10-28T17:09:11Z")
> [@Mullinator](#): > > The great thing is you can put any females name other then Jenn M. in the above statement and it works. Yeah, I was definitely thinking “Why single out Ivana?” when I read that. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/5 "2004-10-28T17:16:13Z")
with Sandy gone, there is no reason to keep watching this show… ---
**Author:** ![fusoya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecccb3/32.png) [@fusoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fusoya)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2004, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/6 "2004-10-28T17:17:41Z")
make that Stacy. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/7 "2004-10-29T01:28:45Z")
Is it me or does everybody want to be PM? I don’t know why, they almost always get fired. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/8 "2004-10-29T01:32:09Z")
Whoa, could Elizabeth have effed that up any worse? She was totally right, but she was unable to do a damn thing about it – even with Kevin on her side. It was like an object lesson on how many ways one person can go wrong on one task. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/9 "2004-10-29T01:38:24Z")
Hmmm Raj for the bad idea or Elizabeth for being the most ineffectual PM in history? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/10 "2004-10-29T01:39:31Z")
Raj: “Well, it’s not like anyone had any other ideas…” :wally ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/11 "2004-10-29T01:41:19Z")
> [@Biggirl](#): > > Hmmm Raj for the bad idea or Elizabeth for being the most ineffectual PM in history? I’m hoping Raj for being an ASSHOLE, but Elizabeth, probably, for not keeping Raj in line. What a nice contrast to Andy, who stuck confidently to his vision, and resisted Maria and Kelly (?)'s sexy, sexy, sexy. Good for him! He deserved that win. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/12 "2004-10-29T01:42:45Z")
Andy’s concept rocked. It made _me_ want to join the NYPD. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/13 "2004-10-29T01:44:26Z")
I mentioned Kelly’s power move in the other thread. I think he’s gonna win. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/14 "2004-10-29T01:44:48Z")
The women’s “sexy” approach was idiocy. You’re trying to appeal to men and women, and this is a professional job. Police are professional. If they tried another testicle ad (remember season one?), they would have lost. Good job by Andy. Bad job by the other guys. Their ad scared the hell out of me. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/15 "2004-10-29T01:46:48Z")
Yikes! ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/16 "2004-10-29T01:46:54Z")
That was cold! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/13edae/32.png) [@Dewey\_Cheatem\_Undhow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Cheatem_Undhow)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/17 "2004-10-29T01:48:05Z")
Whoa. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/18 "2004-10-29T01:48:14Z")
Well, that WAS the most shocking board room ever! ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/19 "2004-10-29T01:48:33Z")
I think Trump was pleased with Elizabeth’s boardroom picks, if we can interpret his face. But I think he did the right thing, because…duh. Raj and Chris will be fired shortly, and with gusto. Carolyn looked pissed that she didn’t get to give her opinion, though! ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2004, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675/20 "2004-10-29T01:49:16Z")
That was swift, but I guess it was a foregone conclusion. No sense wasting time if the decision is already made. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/apprentic-10-28-04/271675.md?page=2)