# Arafat is Dead

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 11, 2004, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144 "2004-11-11T03:56:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/21 "2004-11-11T05:03:44Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Hey buddy, I may not know all of the mysterious inner-workings of the Palestinian mind, but that’ll piss 'em off real good.

AgaIn, why do you give a fuck what happens in remote southern mediterraean? Angling for some head from some semitic lass?

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/22 "2004-11-11T05:12:02Z")

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> [@sevastopol](#):
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> AgaIn, why do you give a fuck what happens in remote southern mediterraean?

Oh, you know worldly-me, always snooping in other countries business. Besides, wouldn’t ‘eastern Mediterranean’ be a tad more accurate?

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> Angling for some head from some semitic lass?

In a non-specific way, sure. But that leads me to ask why do you always defend Arafat? Angling for some head from old and busted terrorist lads?

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/23 "2004-11-11T05:15:58Z")

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Defend Arafat? Me? You are thinking of someone else. Check my responses in the GD thread.

Thanks for the clarification. I was worried one rock of the ages was going soft on us. So to speak.

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/24 "2004-11-11T05:27:58Z")

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‘E’s not pinin’! 'E’s passed on! This terrorist is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E’s expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E’s a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn’t nailed 'im to the perch 'e’d be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E’s off the twig! 'E’s kicked the bucket, 'e’s shuffled off ‘is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-TERRORIST!!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/25 "2004-11-11T05:40:07Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Oh, you know worldly-me, always snooping in other countries business. Besides, wouldn’t ‘eastern Mediterranean’ be a tad more accurate?

Well, neither is _really_ accurate, unless they bury him at sea :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/26 "2004-11-11T05:46:34Z")

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Not to rain on your parade or anything, but: Ramallah.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/27 "2004-11-11T05:48:03Z")

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Arafat buried at sea? I guess that’s one _current event_ Sharon would sign off on.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/28 "2004-11-11T05:48:43Z")

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> [@sevastopol](#):
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> Not to rain on your parade or anything, but: Ramallah.

Dude, you are being rather cryptic tonight.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/29 "2004-11-11T05:57:23Z")

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> [@Brutus](#):
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> Dude, you are being rather cryptic tonight.

Burial to be in Ramallah.

Actually it is afternoon, a little squally and overcast.

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**Author:** ![yosemite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/3ab097/32.png) [@yosemite](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yosemite)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/30 "2004-11-11T05:57:47Z")

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**sevastopol** , either you have been _so_ whooshed, or you are seriously humor-impaired.

**Brutus** , you are my new hero. That was pretty damned hilarious.

Oh, and Franco _and_ Arafat are still dead.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/31 "2004-11-11T06:02:44Z")

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> [@Governor Quinn](#):
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> You’re both wrong. It’s Rigoberta Menchu, who won on the basis of a book proven to be utterly fraudulent.

A book that turns out to be a fraud is nowhere near as evil as what Kissenger and Arafat did.

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**Author:** ![Sevastopol](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cdc98d/32.png) [@Sevastopol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sevastopol)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/32 "2004-11-11T06:02:46Z")

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Must be the damned coffee again. Did I ever thank **Brutus** for the advice? Oh well.

My question to you: Seeing as there is already a “told you so” thread, should I mention my earlier post there? The one that the French papers were saying death would be announced today. Maybe here’s fine.

See the Arafat/health predictions thread in GD.

hooch time, man I’m buzzing.

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**Author:** ![Brutus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Brutus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brutus)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/33 "2004-11-11T06:08:12Z")

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> [@sevastopol](#):
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> …hooch time, man…

Bipartisan agreement from me on that one!

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/34 "2004-11-11T06:38:26Z")

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> [@Roseworm](#):
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> Good riddance to the most undeserving Nobel Peace Prize winner of all time.

Jimmy Carter died?

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**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/35 "2004-11-11T07:02:25Z")

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> [@Abbie Carmichael](#):
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> Jimmy Carter died?

Care to provide any evidence to support your claim that Carter is undeserving of the reward?

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/36 "2004-11-11T07:06:54Z")

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Carter won the Peace Prize?

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/37 "2004-11-11T07:07:58Z")

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In a pit thread? No, actually I don’t, but thank you for asking 🙂

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**Author:** ![Abbie\_Carmichael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/49beb7/32.png) [@Abbie\_Carmichael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abbie_Carmichael)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/38 "2004-11-11T07:12:08Z")

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> [@spooje](#):
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> Carter won the Peace Prize?

Yes, in 2002.

Back to Arafat for a minute: he was a Muslim, right?

Was he considered a “good” Muslim? I ask because his wife is (supposedly) a Christian. Doesn’t the Koran have rules against marrying non-Muslims?

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/39 "2004-11-11T08:20:59Z")

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Is it against pit-rules to wish unpleasant karmic retribution upon someone in their next life? 😉😃

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**Author:** ![Roseworm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/df788c/32.png) [@Roseworm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roseworm)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2004, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arafat-is-dead/274144/40 "2004-11-11T08:30:15Z")

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To **Blalron** :

Jimmy Carter’s Peace Prize was _tainted_. The Nobel Committee announced beforehand that it was awarding the prize to Jimmy, not because of any merits on his part, but because it wanted to poke a stick in George W. Bush’s eye - to repudiate the Bush Doctrine.

If Carter had had any integrity, he would have refused the prize under those terms. But he had lobbied for years to get himself a Peace Prize, and he was all too willing to grab it under _any_ terms, not matter how unseemly.

Carter and Arafat were so close, one would have thought they were fuck-buddies. So, in that sense, I suppose Carter deserved a Nobel Peace Prize as much as Arafat did.

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