# Aransas Cty (TX) judge beats daughter for downloading from the Internet (2004 incident)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 2, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577 "2011-11-02T01:41:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/321 "2011-11-04T13:04:27Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> Despite our learned counsel the police chief’s rationale doesn’t correspond to the legal opinions expressed herein.

If you mean me…

> [@](#):
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> Apparently the charge would have been injury to a child (despite her being over 14) but the statute of limitations has expired (which is five years from the offense rather than 10 years from her 18th birthday for injury to a child) The chief’s statements might still leave the door open for civil penalties and certainly won’t help his career as a family court judge.

This is what I said.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/322 "2011-11-04T13:23:42Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Do you have a pervasive developmental disorder (like Asperger’s Disorder)? Or do you have Acquired Empathic Deficiency Syndrome?
> 
> Did you watch the video? See, when others watch the video, they (largely) think “Holy Shit!” or some variant of that, and have some kind of affective response. You may have heard of such things. For some, they become tearful. Some may have a feeling in their stomach that is like when you feel sick. Some may feel tension in their chest, limbs or face. There are a host of other possible cognitive and affective reactions that people might experience.
> 
> So, when you come in with your “You know, I’m not entirely dispassionate to the assertion that this was somewhat unacceptable, but let’s go into a discussion of Texas law (even though I’m not a Texas lawyer)”, you need to understand that others are still coping with the unpleasant feelings that arose when they watched it. Your reaction might seem… insufficient. Lacking in some human qualities that one might expect.

I didn’t go into the discussion. I joined the discussion about the law and the statute of limitations that started before me.

Do you have **villa** and **RNTB** on your ignore lists? Is that why you didn’t know this?

If so, can you please put me on there, too?

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/323 "2011-11-04T13:37:57Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> I grew up in Texas. Our coach in high school had one of those, proudly displayed on the wall with a sign - the “Board of education”. But his had holes drilled through it like Swiss cheese to cut down the wind resistance so it could be swung harder. And that thing hurt like hell. Even so, it was a relatively calm, sterile kind of punishment. You went in, he took your wallet and any other padding you tried to hide in your back pockets, then hit you on the ass. The sentence was handed down by the teacher or principle usually 1 lick, sometimes 2 licks, I think I remember some getting 3 licks. And that was it, you gathered your wallet and dignity and went back to class. I don’t think I ever knew of one occasion where anyone modified their behavior as a result of it. It wasn’t nearly as traumatic as what it looks like this girl went through on more than one occasion.

Same here.. in my high school you use to roll the dice and whatever you rolled was the paddling you got.. I thought it was ignorant then and still do today.. The fact that the “Judge” was cursing while striking says a lot to me. My dad told me long ago when my firstborn came to never discipline when you were angry.

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**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/324 "2011-11-04T13:54:02Z")

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> [@keeganst94](#):
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> I’m…I’m actually agreeing with Citizen Pained and OMG? What?
> 
> Look, I’ve read this entire damned thread and it seems to me that what Citizen Pained is saying is that we do not have all relevant facts, and that saying that the judge had no redeeming qualities is wrong despite the fact that the video is horrifying. In other words, that we shouldn’t judge based on one incident. I don’t agree, particularly because the daughter and the mother have both added to the story of abuse, but it’s not an entirely unreasonable position.
> 
> And OMG is being attacked for…not being black? Who gives a shit? Not only that when he shared his reaction, which is what every one in this thread has done, everyone acted like he somehow boasted or something, even though he was just, like everyone else here, sharing his reaction.
> 
> Finally, I don’t really get the whole Bricker thing. He never excused the judges actions, he just went over whether or not it was legal, which was actually being asked at the time.
> 
> Yeah, the videos damn horrifying, yeah, the judge should be charged, but some of you have got to calm down and realise that saying that you didn’t find the video all that terrible, or debating whether or not the judges actions were legal, while saying that you do not condone his actions, does not necessarily mean that you’re apologizing for him.

No no no no OMG.. came in here with “I’m from straight out of Africa” Shit. Okay well I’m out of Africa to.. via several slave ships and relatives who moved up north.. what that shit had to do with the discussion i have no clue. Perhaps someone who is straight out of Ireland should add.. or straight out of Poland.. or Straight out of Russia..  
I’ve handled and arrested a mother who took a hot iron to her daughter.. but since THIS doesn’t rise up to that girls second degree burns it can’t be abuse..

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/325 "2011-11-04T13:58:11Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> So, I am trying to understand. When you see something horrible, unless you dissolve into a puddle of emotion and fall all apart and throw up, you are “lacking in some human qualities” and suffering from Asperger’s. Got it.
> 
> And I came here to fight ignorance. Guess it’s time to leave this thread.

Yes, you are very perceptive. My argument is that there are only two possible reactions - dissolving impotently into emotional jelly, or launching dispassionately into an arcane review like an automaton whose button was pressed.

But no, please don’t go. Whatever shall we do if you don’t continue to share your insights?

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/326 "2011-11-04T13:59:09Z")

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> [@Chicagojeff](#):
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> Same here.. in my high school you use to roll the dice and whatever you rolled was the paddling you got.. I thought it was ignorant then and still do today.. The fact that the “Judge” was cursing while striking says a lot to me. My dad told me long ago when my firstborn came to never discipline when you were angry.

That is one of the most disturbing things about this to me. Not just the hitting, but to talk to your child like that. His verbal abuse was just sickening. I think that having my father talk to me in that way would hurt me worse than the belt. This is your dad. He’s supposed to love you and care for you and protect you from other assholes that might want to treat you badly. He’s not supposed to be the asshole.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/327 "2011-11-04T14:04:00Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I didn’t go into the discussion. I joined the discussion about the law and the statute of limitations that started before me.
> 
> Do you have **villa** and **RNTB** on your ignore lists? Is that why you didn’t know this?
> 
> If so, can you please put me on there, too?

I’m not at all familiar with any history of those two posters distracting a discussion (at times apparently intentionally ) with some pained and painful tangent about some minor point of law.

On the other hand, I’ve seen many episodes of the Bricker Show.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/328 "2011-11-04T14:18:45Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I’m not at all familiar with any history of those two posters distracting a discussion (at times apparently intentionally ) with some pained and painful tangent about some minor point of law.
> 
> On the other hand, I’ve seen many episodes of the Bricker Show.

So was that done here?

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/329 "2011-11-04T14:28:03Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> So was that done here?

Well network executives were concerned that the Bricker Show was faring badly with the 18-35 demographic, so spun off a couple of minor legal characters to start RNTB & villa in Lefty Lawyer Laugh-in.

But like every spinoff, it lacked firm roots. So just as Bobby Ewing had to visit Knots Landing from time to time, you had to make special guest appearance. We wanted to save it for the very special Xmas episode, but the powers that be are considering canceling us before that.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/330 "2011-11-04T14:32:47Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> That is one of the most disturbing things about this to me. Not just the hitting, but to talk to your child like that. His verbal abuse was just sickening. I think that having my father talk to me in that way would hurt me worse than the belt. This is your dad. He’s supposed to love you and care for you and protect you from other assholes that might want to treat you badly. He’s not supposed to be the asshole.

l agree. Another very disturbing aspect was just how much he was into it. There’s a real “lemme at her” vibe, and when he goes to get another belt, you get the idea that he envisions both of them beating on her together. The "say the wrong thing " coda really makes it clear that he’s just itching to continue.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/331 "2011-11-04T14:44:31Z")

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I forgot to point out that musings on the ability to defeat BIOS passwords fit more with the defense through distraction theory than the joining in as a legal consultant explanation.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/332 "2011-11-04T15:03:42Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I forgot to point out that musings on the ability to defeat BIOS passwords fit more with the defense through distraction theory than the joining in as a legal consultant explanation.

I’m sorry, but I don’t agree. At least one poster was surprised to learn that BIOS passwords could be reset in hardware or that a bootable Linux system could read Windows data. Granted, it wasn’t the main point of the thread, but the quick mention didn’t derail any discussion at all. We didn’t devolve into a discussion of motherboard models or NTFS disk encryption capabilities. Someone said something that was factually inaccurate, and I corrected it. The quest for accuracy is one that is shared by most people who come to this board. I realize that it takes a back seat in your view to righteous indignation, but just because you have no interest in factual accuracy does not mean others don’t.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/333 "2011-11-04T15:50:49Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Yeah. People really gave **Grammar\_Nazis\_R\_AOK** an unfair reception too.

No idea who that is, but I’m _actually_ talking about someone trying to grammar Nazi is another thread because I said “isle” instead of “aisle”.

> [@Frylock](#):
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> The suggestion was not a video, but rather, a video chat, in which you discuss, on the spot, conversations you’ve had on this board.
> 
> I mean, I guess you could have a really good actor black friend who’s done a lot of research into your participation on this board or something.

And, as I said, I don’t do videos. It’s either a dated picture or nothing.

> [@Chicagojeff](#):
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> No no no no OMG.. came in here with “I’m from straight out of Africa” Shit. Okay well I’m out of Africa to.. via several slave ships and relatives who moved up north..

Well, unlike you, I was actually _born in Africa_, lived there for a while, got on a plane with my parents 20+ years ago and came to the U.S.. If you would have ever been to Africa, you would know that corporal punishment is pretty much considered a cultural norm throughout the continent (I’m sure there are probably a few places here and there where it’s looked down upon). You do something wrong, you get your licks and no one bats an eye-- within reason, of course.

Anyway, when I watched the video I thought to myself, “That’s it?”. Ehhh. If I counted right, she got hit 17 times on her clothed body. I’m not going to lie; when I was younger, those were the kind of beatings I’d pray for. Typically, as it happened, I got a belt, a switch, a paddle or some kind of palm branch to the back/backside for a good minute or so uninterrupted. Indeed, I’d go so far as to say that I think a sizable portion of kids in America probably get beat worse than than the chick in the video did every now and then without most of the public batting an eye. I can’t be bothered to find it right now, but I remember a study reading that Blacks are more likely to be physically disciplined and to be hit with stuff like belts, switches, paddles and rulers than any other racial group. You think they’re all terrible parents and/or child abusers? I happen to beg to differ. What you deem as abuse, I just deem as getting a good old fashioned spanking. Watching the video really didn’t bother me at all.

Now I eagerly await the hundreds of angry responses about how terrible a person I am 😛

> [@](#):
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> what that shit had to do with the discussion i have no clue. Perhaps someone who is straight out of Ireland should add.. or straight out of Poland.. or Straight out of Russia..

Precisely what I said.

> [@](#):
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> I’ve handled and arrested a mother who took a hot iron to her daughter.. but since THIS doesn’t rise up to that girls second degree burns it can’t be abuse..

I spy with my little eye a straw man. To reiterate what I said earlier:

> [@](#):
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> Did the beating cross the line? I don’t think so. She wasn’t being beaten with any weird kind of object (i.e., a pipe, an extension cord or some other weird object) and she didn’t suffer, as far as I can tell, any broken or fractured bones.

I do believe being beaten with a hot iron would classify as a ‘weird object’.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/334 "2011-11-04T15:57:22Z")

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**OMG** , did you ever consider that being beaten to within an inch of your life is not normal no matter how much you say you’re used to it and it’s the norm when you were growing up?

Maybe you were raised by sadistic barbarians.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/335 "2011-11-04T16:04:50Z")

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I’m sorry, but where did you read anything about being beaten to within an inch of your life? Hyperbole, much?

…Oh, and sadistic barbarians? Really?

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/336 "2011-11-04T16:12:11Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> If you mean me…

Yes I did.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> This is what I said.

No you didn’t.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> So it’s not just any child abuse – sexual abuse is ten years after the child’s 18th birthday, yes. Child abuse not sexual in nature appears to be ten years from the date of the oiffense only if it’s the sort of abuse that is a felony of the first degree under Section 22.04.

it is five years from the date of the offense, according to the police chief and DA.

> [@Bricker](#):
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> I welcome correction from a Texas attorney, but I’m pretty confident I’m reading this correctly. Section 22.04 applies only to a “child” 14 or younger; which excludes Ms. Adams in 2004. Therefore the ten year SOL in the criminal procedure code does not apply.

Despite 22.04 regarding injury to a child under 14, the victim was over 14, the Chief said the charge would have been injury to a child, and the limitation is five years.

You were right that the statute of limitations prevented charging him with a crime, you were wrong about pretty much every interpretation of the law that led to this conclusion (or the police chief and DA were).

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/337 "2011-11-04T16:14:27Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> I spy with my little eye a straw man. To reiterate what I said earlier:
> 
> I do believe being beaten with a hot iron would classify as a ‘weird object’.

Ah. So in your world there is a specific list of appropriate items to be beaten the everliving shit out of with by your parents ; but deviating from that list, now that’s just \*wrong \*man. A belt is A-okay, but electrical chords aren’t, boards good, pipes bad…Fascinating.

Now to ask the question burning on everyone’s lips: please, please, please tell us you never had nor ever plan on having kids ? Or if you do you’re determined to pre-emptively call CPS on yourself ?

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/338 "2011-11-04T16:24:30Z")

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> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> You think they’re all terrible parents and/or child abusers? I happen to beg to differ. What you deem as abuse, I just deem as getting a good old fashioned spanking. Watching the video really didn’t bother me at all.

You are aware the man would have been charged with a felony had the statute of limitations not run out, aren’t you?

> [@](#):
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> “We believe that there was a criminal offense involved and that there was substantial evidence to indicate that and under normal circumstances … a charge could have been made,” Jayroe said. He said the district attorney determined he couldn’t bring charges, and that police would discuss the case with federal prosecutors even though he doesn’t believe federal charges would apply.

> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#):
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> Now I eagerly await the hundreds of angry responses about how terrible a person I am 😛

Yes we know, it’s called “trolling”.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/339 "2011-11-04T16:45:52Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Well network executives were concerned that the Bricker Show was faring badly with the 18-35 demographic, so spun off a couple of minor legal characters to start RNTB & villa in Lefty Lawyer Laugh-in.
> 
> But like every spinoff, it lacked firm roots. So just as Bobby Ewing had to visit Knots Landing from time to time, you had to make special guest appearance. We wanted to save it for the very special Xmas episode, but the powers that be are considering canceling us before that.

_voice of E! True Hollywood Stories narrator_

Unfortunately, that show was ultimately canceled when People magazine revealed **RNATB** wasn’t a lawyer yet, and hadn’t stayed at a Holiday Inn Express. He died a sad, broken man, lamenting the daytime Emmy that might have been.

**Bricker** went on to be the 48th President of the United States, and not only restored the dignity of the office\* but also personally corrected hundreds of typographical errors in White House correspondence. Detractors named him the Proofreader-In-Chief, but praised his thoughtful and well-constructed prose and washboard abs.

As counsel at large for the ACLU, **villa** successfully argued that the First Amendment protected the right of citizens to engage in intercourse with garden vegetables, and that continuing to refer to baseball as the “national pastime” was just silly. He would later be present when Congress adopted a joint resolution declaring English Second Division football to be the new national pastime.

\*thought to have been irretrievably damaged during the tenure of the 47th president, Joe the Plumber.

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**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/340 "2011-11-04T16:47:14Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Ah. So in your world there is a specific list of appropriate items to be beaten the everliving shit out of with by your parents ; but deviating from that list, now that’s just \*wrong \*man. A belt is A-okay, but electrical chords aren’t, boards good, pipes bad…Fascinating.

You know, I’ve noticed that the way to argue for some seems to be to rely on faux wit/failed snark as if that somehow makes your argument, and I use the term lightly, any better. It doesn’t. It just makes it all the more laughable, because it shows that you lack the intellectual fortitude to defend your position. But I digress.

As I asked some poster I can’t remember the name of and **Guinastasia** prior, are you mad because the judge beat his daughter or because of the manner in which he beat her. The two are entirely separate issues. Judging from your post, you’re mad\* because\* he beat her, not because of the _manne_r in which he beat her, in which case, the faux outrage over how he went about doing it is just that-- faux outrage. You seem to believe that corporal punishment is bad and that it’s all the same. I happen to disagree. I find there’s nothing wrong with physically disciplining your child, so long as it’s within reason and you do not inflict physical injury to that child. To somehow insinuate that being beaten with, say, a crowbar\* is the same as being beaten with, say, a belt is intellectually dishonest. One of those is a common disciplinary tool while the other is not and if used to strike someone, can cause broken bones and internal bleeding.

…Oh, and I love the hyperbole. Can’t seem to get enough of those.

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> Now to ask the question burning on everyone’s lips: please, please, please tell us you never had nor ever plan on having kids?

Indeed, I do. I bet that just tears you up inside, right? That’s glad to know.

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> Or if you do you’re determined to pre-emptively call CPS on yourself ?

Why should I? …Oh, oh, oh wait. Because I favor corporal punishment, right? Well, not that this is important or anything, but you do realize that last I saw, around 90% of parents with a toddler engage in some form of corporal punishment and that around 60% of parents with a school-age child use some form of corporal punishment, correct? I guess I can expect CPS to be **SUPER** busy for the forseeable future.

> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> You are aware the man would have been charged with a felony had the statute of limitations not run out, aren’t you?

1.) I think you might want to read what I typed out again.

2.) But how do you know that as true? Personally, given the area he is in, I find that a convenient excuse to placate the masses of angry people without having to dish out discipline. It’s a win-win situation.

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> Yes we know, it’s called “trolling”.

Uh-huh. Weird how “You disagree with me” = “troll”.

\*Giving an example.

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