# Aransas Cty (TX) judge beats daughter for downloading from the Internet (2004 incident) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 2, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577 "2011-11-02T01:41:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omg_a_Black_Conservative)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/361 "2011-11-04T21:20:43Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Oooh but I thought it made me all quirky and lovable ☹ You thought wrong. Which, I suppose, isn’t all that surprising. > [@](#): > > No. That’s the specific thing I was trying to get you to figure out but flew right over your pointy little head. You assert these rules and distinctions and lines in the sand that are utterly bizarre and come off, quite frankly, as absurd. For example, if you’re OK with belts, you crazy asshole you, then what’s wrong with an extension chord? Both are whip-like objects, both will cause pain without lasting injuries. But there’s a rule ? Well OK then. Can’t argue with the unspoken crazy rule, I suppose. So let me make sure I understand your thought process here. A belt and an extension cord as the same because they’re both whip like objects, yes? Well then, following the same logic, does this mean that paddle is the same as a 2x4, or a bat, because they could all be considered blunt objects? A rhetorical question, obviously, as there’s a very good chance that disciplining a child with a ruler or a paddle won’t get you fined or thrown in jail while disciplining with a 2x4 or a bat, will. There goes that “unspoken, crazy rule”, I suppose. (Edit: For your sake, never get beaten with a extension cord.) > [@](#): > > Can’t I be steamed about both? Also his language, the emotions he betrayed, the emotions (or lack thereof) \*she \*betrayed, the general package of fucked up as it were? Well, first and foremost, since it’s all the rage around here, I think you mean _displayed_, instead of _betrayed_. But I’m not a Grammar Nazi (unlike some), so I’m not going to focus on that. Second of all, to answer your question, no, you can’t. Perhaps you should go back and read your own responses in this thread. For a while, you were seemingly arguing against hitting a child, _period_ (i.e., post #197), or at the very least that it’s unecessary. Now you’re apparently arguing that it’s okay to hit a child but only in appropriate ways. So again I ask you, which is it? If you’re arguing the first, that’s it’s not okay to physically discipline a child, then the manner in which the child is physically disciplined is irrelevant, as all physical discipline is wrong. If it’s the second, then the question is what do you think is appropriate and what do you think is not? I’ve asked this question before and I’ve gotten no answer. Hopefully I’ll get a response this time. > [@](#): > > Nope. Gotta stick with one element, and one element only. Thems are the man’s rules. Well OK then. I direct you to the response above. > [@](#): > > Judging by your… offerings… in this thread, you don’t have a goddamn clue what “within reason” entails. Yes, you’re right. I suppose that’s why I’ve been saying a parent should be allowed to beat a child to within an inch of his or her life, break multiple bones, cause the loss of limb or appendage, cause internal bleeding or any other such injuries. > [@](#): > > Return of the absurd distinctions! Weee! So you find the distinction between beating your child with a belt and beating them with a crowbar to be absurd? That says more about your character (or, more specifically, state of mind) than it does anything about me. > [@](#): > > So can all of the items you listed as fine and dandy for the purpose of fucking up your kids. They can? By whom? Since I’ve seen people talk about things which are culturally acceptable, you’re going to be hard pressed to argue that disciplining your child via a belt, a ruler, a paddle or a switch are considered to be equivalent to, say, disciplining your child with an extension cord, a hot iron, a 2x4 or any other such item you can think of. > [@](#): > > Not really. I just pity them. Pity them, why? …Oh, wait. Is this one of those situations where you assume that because someone, in this case me, says that he doesn’t feel any sort of outrage over the father’s actions that it somehow correlates to that someone, again me, would discipline their child in the same way? Because, you know, that would be a stupid-- not to mention foolish, presumptuous and just all around asinine-- assumption to make. > [@](#): > > Because you consider what we’re seeing in this video to be “within reason” and no big deal. Also because you’re a complete muppet and more than a bit of an asshole in general, but CPS doesn’t handle that, more’s the pity. Right. So are you looking for a serious response here, or was this just added in to kind of make me roll my eyes and shake my head in shame at you? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/362 "2011-11-04T22:06:40Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > You thought wrong. Which, I suppose, isn’t all that surprising. You’re just a big meanie. > [@](#): > > A rhetorical question, obviously, as there’s a very good chance that disciplining a child with a ruler or a paddle won’t get you fined or thrown in jail while disciplining with a 2x4 or a bat, will. There goes that “unspoken, crazy rule”, I suppose. > > (Edit: For your sake, never get beaten with a extension cord.) You must have missed the part where the local Police chief opined that, had there not been statutes of limitations issue in this case, the judge’s action would have been found criminal. It’s an easy overlook, it was only quoted half a dozen times ITT. But… but I thought belts were cool since they were on The List ? (also, I got whipped with a loop of rock climbing rope once. Wouldn’t say there’s much difference between that and a sturdy leather belt. As in both hurt like a motherfuck.) > [@](#): > > Well, first and foremost, since it’s all the rage around here, I think you mean _displayed_, instead of _betrayed_. But I’m not a Grammar Nazi (unlike some), so I’m not going to focus on that. No, I did mean betray. I’m a translator, genius, words are my trade. > [@Wiktionary](#): > > Verb **betray** (_third-person singular simple present_ **[betrays](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/betrays#English)**, _present participle_ **[betraying](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/betraying#English)**, _simple past and past participle_ **[betrayed](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/betrayed#English)**) > > [ol] > [li]To [deliver](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/deliver) into the hands of an enemy by [treachery](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/treachery) or [fraud](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fraud), in violation of trust; to give up treacherously or faithlessly; as, an officer betrayed the city.[/li][li]To [prove](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prove) faithless or treacherous to, as to a trust or one who trusts; to be false to; to deceive; as, to betray a person or a cause.[/li][li]To [violate](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/violate) the confidence of, by disclosing a secret, or that which one is bound in honor not to make known.[/li][li]**To [disclose](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/disclose) or [discover](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/discover), as something which prudence would conceal; to [reveal](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/reveal) unintentionally; to [bewray](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bewray).**[/li][ul] > [li] **1966** , Marc Léopold Benjamin Bloch, _French rural history_: Again, to take a less extreme example, there is no denying that although the dialects of northern France retained their fundamentally Romance character, they **betray** many Germanic influences in phonetics and vocabulary, […][/li][/ul] > > [li]To [mislead](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mislead); to [expose](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/expose) to inconvenience not foreseen to lead into error or sin.[/li][li]To lead astray, as a maiden; to [seduce](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/seduce) (as under promise of marriage) and then abandon.[/li][li]To [show](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/show) or to [indicate](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/indicate); – said of what is not obvious at first, or would otherwise be concealed.[/li][/ol] Bolding mine. Ignorance fought, yay ! > [@](#): > > Second of all, to answer your question, no, you can’t. Perhaps you should go back and read your own responses in this thread. For a while, you were seemingly arguing against hitting a child, _period_ (i.e., post #197), or at the very least that it’s unnecessary. Now you’re apparently arguing that it’s okay to hit a child but only in appropriate ways. So again I ask you, which is it? Did you read that post ? Where did I argue one way or the other ? All that post says is my own father never did. And for the record, I do think it’s always unnecessary. I don’t know about wrong, but it’s certainly stupid and ill-advised. I know some people do it. I can live with it when it doesn’t make me want to murder them. > [@](#): > > If you’re arguing the first, that’s it’s not okay to physically discipline a child, then the manner in which the child is physically disciplined is irrelevant, as all physical discipline is wrong. More absurd assertions. I think it’s never okay to rape. I also think a gang rape is more wrong than one-on-one affairs, and conscious forcible rape is even more detestable than the Roofies trick. I think it’s never okay to kill, but I recognize the gradation between sadistic torture cum murder, premeditaded murder, spur of the moment act of passion, self-defense, acts of war and any amounts of other nuances in between. I believe you’re trying to get a “gotcha!” out of me because in your head, if I’m okay with some forms of physical punishments then I must allow all of them. Anything else would be hypocritical inconsistency ! Gotcha ! If so, you’re a moron. Wait, we’d already established that. > [@](#): > > Yes, you’re right. I suppose that’s why I’ve been saying a parent should be allowed to beat a child to within an inch of his or her life, break multiple bones, cause the loss of limb or appendage, cause internal bleeding or any other such injuries. Weren’t you the one complaining about hyperbole a page ago ? And witless snark ? > [@](#): > > So you find the distinction between beating your child with a belt and beating them with a crowbar to be absurd? That says more about your character (or, more specifically, state of mind) than it does anything about me. No, you drooling imbecile. Again, you completely miss the point. I was talking about your “one is commonly used, the other is not” rule. By this logic, and understand I’m stretching the meaning of the word to its breaking point here, using tickling as a form of punishment would be out. Or a rolled up newspaper. Or a phonebook. Or any amount of household items that would be far less cruel than what’s on The List, but would according to you be punishable since they’re not “commonly used”. > [@](#): > > They can? By whom? You’re going to question the notion that a large wooden paddle can break bones ? That a belt buckle can cause permanent damage ? That a caning can result in internal bleeding ? Again, I was pointing at the crookedness of your logical process. And again, it zipped right over your head. Don’t know why I still bother, really. So I’m going to stop bothering about… now. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/363 "2011-11-04T22:10:36Z")
Whew, this brings back memories. I know the mother doesn’t come off looking that good but I remember my mom stepping in to “beat” me to get my dad to stop beating me. She could hit me with all her might and it hardly hurt at all. The girl also couldn’t have gotten beaten too regularly because she would have learned by the time she was 16 that the proper response to an abusive parent is contrition and an apology. When you resist punishment it just pisses them off, it seems like a challenge to authority and it seems like you don’t think you did anything wrong. Whether you did or not, you probably want the beating to be as light and short as possible. She shoulda apologized and begged her father for mercy, the parental instinct kicks in at some point IF they’re sober. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/364 "2011-11-04T23:41:12Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > It’s telling that he switched off the lights before starting the beating. Even while upholding all that is good and right in the world he sure didn’t want the neighbors to see it happening. Those shadows on the curtains might lead someone to think there was a savage beating going on in there instead of just good parenting, and call the police before the statute of limitations had passed. I am convinced that the conduct shown would support a finding of criminal guilt. But I don’t think the judge applied the analysis you picture here. > [@](#): > > Despite not having taped evidence for newer crimes her testimony and her mothers would be much more believable now with the evidence of the past abuse now public. **pravnik** and I discussed above the evidentiary problems involved in using the tape during a prosecution for another assault. And I believe the defense would be entitled to reject a juror that had seen the video before trial. ---
**Author:** ![rogerbox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/76d3ee/32.png) [@rogerbox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rogerbox)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/365 "2011-11-04T23:46:34Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > The girl also couldn’t have gotten beaten too regularly because she would have learned by the time she was 16 that the proper response to an abusive parent is contrition and an apology. When you resist punishment it just pisses them off, it seems like a challenge to authority and it seems like you don’t think you did anything wrong. Whether you did or not, you probably want the beating to be as light and short as possible. She shoulda apologized and begged her father for mercy, the parental instinct kicks in at some point IF they’re sober. To me it looked like at that moment, she was more scared to turn her back on a psychotic with a weapon, than to get beaten the way she was. Better whipped than a chance of getting strangled. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/366 "2011-11-04T23:50:02Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > Funny. That would be the meaning you derived from my name. In which case, it sounds an awfully like a personal problem to me. I mean, complaining about a username… Really… That ranks right up there with trying to be a Grammar Nazi. It’s kind of sad but what can I do about it? If you want to spend your time complaining about a username, who am I to stop you? > > Oh, and considering the number of “You can’t really be Black and believe what you do!” type statements I’ve received on this board, coupled with the plethora of reasons I’ve been given why Blacks should loathe conservatives (i.e., they’re racists), I happen to think my username is quite apt, all things considered. Bull and shit. If you merely wanted to point out that you were black and conservative, what’s with the OMG? > [@](#): > > How can you be mad about both? If you’re mad simply because he beat her, then how he beat her isn’t all that important, as you’re not going to argue that one being beaten one way is “more preferable” to the other. You’ll consider them equally as wrong. If you’re mad because of the way he beat her, then you’re not opposed to a child being beaten by a parent so long as it is in a way you find appropriate, in which case the question is what’s the appropriate way to do it. So again I ask, which is it? It’s not appropriate for a parent to beat a child, period. The belt makes it worse, if only because it causes more damage, but it doesn’t matter. Beating a child is fucking wrong, dumbass, and I think you bloody well know what people are trying to say, so can the bullshit semantic games. > [@](#): > > It’s a good thing I didn’t ask if you cared. I said I couldn’t get outraged because I’ve seen worse and have received worse beatings. And as Chris Rock once said, “What do you want, a cookie?” > [@](#): > > Let’s start from the beginning. Before you define the situation as abuse, why is it abuse? Actually, before you even do that, you’re required to answer a question posed to you earlier. Are you mad about this situation because she was beaten, period, or because of how she was beaten? Why was it abuse when you were beaten? You keep asking this question, and you’ve been given the answer. You can’t keep asking it because you don’t like the answer. > [@](#): > > Well, duh. I wasn’t beaten to death. Obviously, not being beaten to death is preferable to being beaten to death. So why do you keep using that argument that you’ve “seen worse”? > [@](#): > > Racist. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/367 "2011-11-04T23:50:06Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Whew, this brings back memories. > > I know the mother doesn’t come off looking that good but I remember my mom stepping in to “beat” me to get my dad to stop beating me. She could hit me with all her might and it hardly hurt at all. > > The girl also couldn’t have gotten beaten too regularly because she would have learned by the time she was 16 that the proper response to an abusive parent is contrition and an apology. When you resist punishment it just pisses them off, it seems like a challenge to authority and it seems like you don’t think you did anything wrong. Whether you did or not, you probably want the beating to be as light and short as possible. She shoulda apologized and begged her father for mercy, the parental instinct kicks in at some point IF they’re sober. So, it’s ok then-not too often and it’s her fault she didn’t learn the “proper” responses. Stupid girl–should have cried and begged for mercy. O wait–she did. You all should really hear yourselves. “It’s common, it’s regional, it’s Texas, it’s a leather belt, it’s infrequent, I’ve lived through worse, they do worse in other countries” etc. NONE of that is relevant, but it sure is minimizing the tragedy. And I use that word deliberately–for a parent to inflict this type of suffering on a child is a tragic failure of parenting. I don’t care if he’s Mr Rogers every other day of the week, it won’t make up for this type of behavior. Frankly, I don’t care if you’ve lived through worse-if so, god help you and please, get some therapy before having your own kids. Parents have infinite power to harm their children: emotionally, physically, spiritually and psychologically. Don’t give me–no, they don’t have “infinite” because this is illegal. It being illegal only matters if someone ELSE finds out about it and reports it to the authority. Kids have almost no rights. I have never beaten my children and yet here they all are: honor students in college and middle school, working and productive members of society. Go figure. Must be an anomaly. I am glad I have read this thread. I knew the Dope had changed a bit (and not for the better), but I truly appreciate the exposure some here have given themselves. It’s been very illuminating to say the least. So glad that the video is not so bad for so many of you; we wouldn’t want you to uncomfortable–don’t want to know what you all consider “bad”. \*\*Bricker’s \*\* software needs updating-if they can make robot puppies that at least simulate empathy, surely his software can be upgraded? **Hentor** and **Giraffe** : thank you for the laughs. I appreciate your dry wit in this difficult thread. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2011, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/368 "2011-11-04T23:58:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I am convinced that the conduct shown would support a finding of criminal guilt. > > But I don’t think the judge applied the analysis you picture here. I am honestly curious why else he would have cut the lights immediately before starting to beat her. That is the only thing I could guess. He didn’t want it to be apparent to the neighbors that he was belt-whipping his daughter. I guess you might mean he did it out of a general wish for privacy rather than a fear of prosecution, which is also possible. It seems like the action of someone who knows he’s about to do something he doesn’t want anyone else to see from outside. > [@Bricker](#): > > **pravnik** and I discussed above the evidentiary problems involved in using the tape during a prosecution for another assault. And I believe the defense would be entitled to reject a juror that had seen the video before trial. Sorry I missed that among the walls of legalese regarding consent to B&D, etc. 🙂 I only scanned over some of it. I don’t know since I am obviously NAL, but in a domestic abuse case establishing a general pattern of abuse over a period of years could (should?) be germane to prosecuting any one charge, even if some of the evidence that establishes that pattern fell outside of the statute of limitations. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/369 "2011-11-05T00:50:01Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I am convinced that the conduct shown would support a finding of criminal guilt. > > But I don’t think the judge applied the analysis you picture here. > > **pravnik** and I discussed above the evidentiary problems involved in using the tape during a prosecution for another assault. And I believe the defense would be entitled to reject a juror that had seen the video before trial. Is child abuse prosecuted as individual acts, or could one get round the time bar by claiming an ongoing criminal act of abuse? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/370 "2011-11-05T01:32:41Z")
> [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > They can? By whom? Since I’ve seen people talk about things which are culturally acceptable, you’re going to be hard pressed to argue that disciplining your child via a belt, a ruler, a paddle or a switch are considered to be equivalent to, say, disciplining your child with an extension cord, a hot iron, a 2x4 or any other such item you can think of. According to the folks [here](http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/), you should use a [“section of ¼ inch plumber’s supply line”](http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/articles/general-view/archive/2001/october/01/in-defense-of-biblical-chastisement-part-2/). Does that meet with your approval, or is that along the lines of an “extension cord”? What is your yardstick for this? ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/371 "2011-11-05T01:35:16Z")
on the one hand, i can understand how someone who has experienced worse would find the level of outrage disproportionate with what he saw but on the other hand.. > [@Omg\_a\_Black\_Conservative](#): > > … Well, not that this is important or anything, but you do realize that last I saw, around 90% of parents with a toddler engage in some form of corporal punishment … wtf man, you seriously need to recalibrate on what you think is the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/372 "2011-11-05T01:38:48Z")
God almighty. If there is one thing I dislike about this message board (and boy do I strongly dislike the following aspect) it’s that some people here are fucking terrible at not feeding trolls. Jesus fucking Christ how masochistic or obtuse do you have to be to continue to feed obvious trolls? In some cases it’s a very educational experience for onlookers, once it stops being educational it just goes back to troll feeding. Stop. Just fucking stop. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/373 "2011-11-05T01:45:34Z")
> [@Covered\_In\_Bees](#): > > God almighty. If there is one thing I dislike about this message board (and boy do I strongly dislike the following aspect) it’s that some people here are fucking terrible at not feeding trolls. Jesus fucking Christ how masochistic or obtuse do you have to be to continue to feed obvious trolls? > > In some cases it’s a very educational experience for onlookers, once it stops being educational it just goes back to troll feeding. > > Stop. Just fucking stop. Dude, that’s not this place, that’s the internet. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/374 "2011-11-05T01:45:42Z")
if it is that obvious then perhaps a Mod should step in and stop it from derailing the thread. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/375 "2011-11-05T01:56:53Z")
> [@shijinn](#): > > if it is that obvious then perhaps a Mod should step in and stop it from derailing the thread. It’s only been four days. Maybe they’re still hungover. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/376 "2011-11-05T02:03:56Z")
> [@villa](#): > > Is child abuse prosecuted as individual acts, or could one get round the time bar by claiming an ongoing criminal act of abuse? I can go into detail about why that’s an untenable approach, if anyone’s interested and doesn’t mind giving **Hentor** hives, but no – I don’t think that will work. I think you’d have better luck getting it in as 404(b) evidence under a common plan, scheme, or motive. Even then, you have the “more prejudicial than probative” problem. If he denies the abuse entirely, you could get it in, or maybe argue some kind of res gestate approach in the alternative… ---
**Author:** ![SCSimmons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e495f1/32.png) [@SCSimmons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SCSimmons)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/377 "2011-11-23T14:05:44Z")
[Judge Williams has been suspended by the Texas Supreme Court.](http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/23/justice/texas-beating-video) The order does not give a reason for the suspension … ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/378 "2011-11-23T16:26:10Z")
[QUOTE=bup] I do believe Adams could be in trouble. [/quote] [QUOTE=Bricker] I don’t. [/quote] > [@"SCSimmons](#): > > Judge Williams has been suspended by the Texas Supreme Court. Oh, who is whose bitch NOW!? **Bricker** is _my_ bitch, that’s who is whose! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/379 "2011-11-23T16:40:43Z")
Well, we don’t _know_ that this is related. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577/380 "2011-11-23T16:52:31Z")
[ > [@](#): > > Aransas County court-at-law Judge William Adams was suspended immediately with pay pending the outcome of the inquiry started earlier this month by the State Commission on Judicial Conduct, according to an order signed Tuesday by the clerk of the state’s highest court. ]([http://www.npr.org/2011/11/23/142695227/texas-supreme-court-suspends-judge-in-beating-video](http://www.npr.org/2011/11/23/142695227/texas-supreme-court-suspends-judge-in-beating-video)) Not a shocker. > [@](#): > > William Adams appeared in court Monday for a day-long hearing regarding the custody of his 10-year-old daughter. His wife had sought a change in their joint custody agreement, and another judge imposed a temporary restraining order effectively keeping William Adams from being alone with his younger daughter until he reached a decision. An order was expected in that dispute Wednesday. I honestly don’t know how a judge would be able to rule impartially in this case. Even if for some nutty reason they thought he was the better parent to have custody, I don’t think the public would allow it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aransas-cty-tx-judge-beats-daughter-for-downloading-from-the-internet-2004-incident/601577.md?page=20)