# Arcanum

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454
**Category:** Great Debates
**Created:** [October 2, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454 "2016-10-02T09:35:04Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/1 "2016-10-02T09:35:04Z")

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It’s wake up time.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/JU1WAaTSjgI?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLntGD3yVWTQ5iRIFx3Nxtmk16BAJGciTI

https://www.youtube.com/embed/5ccUGL0yxdc?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLntGD3yVWTQ5iRIFx3Nxtmk16BAJGciTI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmWeZHsQzs

Everything is held together due to the result of a frequency. When the frequency is amplified, matter changes. The free masons have been using lower frequencies to induce fear in the people by utilizing media. Scientists found out that when we think a frequency is created and spread person to person. It's my central thesis that vibrations are the structure of consciousness... That's why music and tones effects us... The alchemists believed planets were gods. The human portrayal of those gods was just a depiction.... Each planet has a frequency and they somehow knew this before modern technology and believed that it could have a direct influence on consciousness.

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### Author: ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/2 "2016-10-02T09:41:54Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> The alchemists believed planets were gods.

Yeah, how else could they circle the earth every day?

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/3 "2016-10-02T10:17:53Z")

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Well as claimed by the books I’ve read that date back to 1300’s they believed they gained this knowledge from life forms that live on a plant which orbits the star system of sires. And we’ve recently discovered an earth like planet that orbits that star system… Most of alchemists findings are now being proven by science, causing some scientists to return back to it.

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/4 "2016-10-02T15:21:24Z")

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Are you talking about string theory, or something else. I’m not going to click on a wall of youtube links to figure out your thesis.

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### Author: ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/5 "2016-10-02T15:24:56Z")

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What’s the frequency, **Kielmic**?

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### Author: ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/6 "2016-10-02T16:19:07Z")

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So I’m guessing this isn’t about the game that had Steampunk Elves and Dwarves.

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### Author: ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/7 "2016-10-02T17:01:01Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Are you talking about string theory, or something else. I’m not going to click on a wall of youtube links to figure out your thesis.

Frequency cubes rather than time cubes?

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### Author: ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/8 "2016-10-02T18:12:51Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> Most of alchemists findings are now being proven by science, causing some scientists to return back to it.

Name five.

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### Author: ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/9 "2016-10-02T19:57:10Z")

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The links don’t seem to match the topic. Therefore I recommend watching this instead:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCRaGFBdXE0)

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/10 "2016-10-02T21:49:14Z")

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That’s because you have to actually watch the videos to know what its about lol.

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/11 "2016-10-02T22:27:46Z")

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Well, most alchemists I’ve talked to flirted with science at one point. But there’s someone named gregg braden who’s leading the charge.

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/12 "2016-10-02T22:37:26Z")

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We’re currently at 7.83 Hz, now this differs from the places you go and the people you bump into. “Research in Biophysics seems to suggest, that our biological system is “tuned into” the background frequency of our planet - the `Schumann Resonance’- a steady pulse of 7.83 Hz which\*\* beats\*\* around the planet within the earth/ionosphere cavity.”

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/13 "2016-10-02T23:02:21Z")

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Gads, the brown acid must still be circulating.

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/14 "2016-10-02T23:02:48Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> Are you talking about string theory, or something else. I’m not going to click on a wall of youtube links to figure out your thesis.

Something else… It’s the idea that sound waves hold together particals causing matter to take shape.

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### Author: ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/15 "2016-10-02T23:08:31Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> That’s because you have to actually watch the videos to know what its about lol.

Sorry, but no. If you want to debate a topic, or espouse a belief system, you should always be able to sum up your topic in just a few sentences. For example:

“Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura (more commonly known as Arcanum) is a 2001 role-playing video game developed by Troika Games and published by Sierra Entertainment. The story takes place on the continent of Arcanum, which is a fantasy setting that is in the process of an industrial revolution. The story begins with the crash of the zeppelin IFS Zephyr, of which the protagonist is the only survivor, which leads them throughout the land in search of answers. It was Troika’s first game and also their best-selling title with over 234,000 copies sold and with revenues of US$8.8 million.”

There. Now you know the basics of **Arcanum,** the video game. If you want to learn more, you’re welcome to watch Let’s Play videos, read FAQs, or purchase the game yourself. But even if you don’t have time to watch six hours of livestreamed videos, at least you know the basics of what it’s about.

So…what was your point, again?

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### Author: ![Kielmic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kielmic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kielmic)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/16 "2016-10-02T23:08:49Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Gads, the brown acid must still be circulating.

Lol people like you make me laugh, you reject something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate it.

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### Author: ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)
#### Post date: [October 2, 2016, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/17 "2016-10-02T23:29:56Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> Lol people like you make me laugh, you reject something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate it.

You haven’t given us any reason to investigate it.

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### Author: ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2016, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/18 "2016-10-03T00:57:14Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> Lol people like you make me laugh, you reject something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate it.

No, I reject **you** , whom I know next to nothing about, but what I do know leads me to think you aren’t worth engaging and your ideas are total and complete rubbish. Now quit bothering people and go back to your coloring book.

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### Author: ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/19 "2016-10-03T00:59:44Z")

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> [@Kielmic](#):
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> Lol people like you make me laugh, you reject something you know nothing about yet refuse to investigate it.

Better than \*believing \*in something \*\*\*you \*\*\*have clearly not investigated. Watching woo Youtube vids doesn’t count as “investigating.”

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### Author: ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)
#### Post date: [October 3, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arcanum/767454/20 "2016-10-03T01:44:39Z")

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Fair enough, we can do things your way.

I believe (provisionally) a whole _bunch_ of stuff that’s really important and would change your outlook on life completely. I can’t be bothered to summarize it, but it’s written in 30-40 thick textbooks that summarize the state of current consensus human knowledge in the sciences. In various places in those books are references to primary research data that completely contradicts everything in your thesis. If you like, I can provide a list of the books so that you can find them in your library and read them carefully. _After_ you have studied them thoroughly, please come back and give us a list of page numbers for the parts that you challenge, and the evidence supporting your position.

Obviously we can’t have a discussion about this until you done what I ask, how can you dismiss _my_ views without investigating them?

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