# Archer (1/17) - "Fugue and Riffs" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 18, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570 "2013-01-18T00:54:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/21 "2013-01-18T18:34:26Z")
> [@LawMonkey](#): > > By the way, was there some reason from last season that Archer would turn up flipping burgers three months later? My memories are a bit vague, especially the end of the season, and I don’t have the discs (yet). Nope. The gang was all alive and together at the end of last season. The mystery of how/why Archer ended up flipping burgers for 2 months was explained within the episode itself. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/22 "2013-01-18T18:38:39Z")
SHITSNACKS! I was all ready for this and totally forgot about it. Any reruns in the near future? ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/23 "2013-01-18T18:42:23Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > SHITSNACKS! I was all ready for this and totally forgot about it. Any reruns in the near future? IMDb lists Jan 20 at 12:30 AM EST. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/24 "2013-01-18T19:11:45Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > IMDb lists Jan 20 at 12:30 AM EST. Well, at least they make it convenient. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/25 "2013-01-18T19:12:20Z")
Probably would have helped if I’d ever seen an episode of Bob’s Burgers but I knew enough understand the joke right away so that was fine. Didn’t seem quite as dense with the jokes as I expect but still very glad it is back. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/26 "2013-01-18T19:16:48Z")
(Paraphrasing) “KGB? Are you sure its not the Gay GB” ---
**Author:** ![magnusblitz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@magnusblitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magnusblitz)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/27 "2013-01-19T03:54:14Z")
Wow, that Bob’s Burgers plot was amazing. I will often sit there and say to myself “pretend this Character X is actually Similar Character Y”, so have the entirety of Bob’s Burgers be a 2 month amnesia-induced episode of Archer is hilarious. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/28 "2013-01-19T05:26:50Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Nope. > > The gang was all alive and together at the end of last season. Well, almost. Remember Ray got crippled because Archer, in an enormous display of douche-baggery, cut the Shuttle’s autopilot at the last second so he could still be the hero and land it himself (spoiler: He turned what would have been a perfect, routine landing into a near disastrous crash!) ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/29 "2013-01-19T12:32:58Z")
I didn’t like the episode at all. I’m trying to figure out why I didn’t like it and can only come with how something was missing, like it was rushed together by new writers, … or something. It also seemed like the old cohesiveness was missing and the characters seemed flat. Anyway, looking forward to next Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![minionkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@minionkat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minionkat)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/30 "2013-01-19T16:26:02Z")
I really liked it. Mallory: “I am going to have seaweed wrap” Ray: “I didn’t know they made sushi with dried clam.” ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/31 "2013-01-19T16:50:06Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Well, almost. Remember Ray got crippled because Archer, in an enormous display of douche-baggery, cut the Shuttle’s autopilot at the last second so he could still be the hero and land it himself (spoiler: He turned what would have been a perfect, routine landing into a near disastrous crash!) “Alive and together” not “alive and well” if you check my post. OTOH, with the massive amounts of therapy and psychotropic drugs they all need, I don’t think you could ever say any of them were ever “well” in any sense of the word. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/32 "2013-01-19T17:59:45Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > “Alive and together” not “alive and well” if you check my post. > > OTOH, with the massive amounts of therapy and psychotropic drugs they all need, I don’t think you could ever say any of them were ever “well” in any sense of the word. Actually, Ray’s always been portrayed as reasonably stable, especially compared to the rest of ISIS. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/33 "2013-01-19T18:57:13Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Well, almost. Remember Ray got crippled because Archer, in an enormous display of douche-baggery, cut the Shuttle’s autopilot at the last second so he could still be the hero and land it himself (spoiler: He turned what would have been a perfect, routine landing into a near disastrous crash!) After something like that, I don’t get why Ray doesn’t kill Archer. It’s just a fraction over the top for me. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/34 "2013-01-20T01:06:26Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > After something like that, I don’t get why Ray doesn’t kill Archer. It’s just a fraction over the top for me. Well hell, in the first season it seemed like Archer would accidentally shoot Cyril or another ISIS agent every week! **BANG!** _**“Damn it Archer!” “Sorry…”**_ ---
**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/35 "2013-01-20T07:44:36Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Well hell, in the first season it seemed like Archer would accidentally shoot Cyril or another ISIS agent every week! Archer: This gun has plenty of stopping power! BANG! Brett: God damn it, Archer! Archer: See that? He was putting on his pants and I stopped him! ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/36 "2013-01-20T19:56:21Z")
KGB agent: we are nut rubbers. Archer: Well ok, you can rub them. 2nd agent: he means we are ‘not robbers!’ ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/37 "2013-01-21T04:02:43Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Well, almost. Remember Ray got crippled because Archer, in an enormous display of douche-baggery, cut the Shuttle’s autopilot at the last second so he could still be the hero and land it himself (spoiler: He turned what would have been a perfect, routine landing into a near disastrous crash!) Close. Cyril was the one making the landing until Archer pushed him out of the way. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/38 "2013-01-22T02:52:02Z")
After finally getting a chance to see this episode I’ll say that I really liked it. But, why hasn’t Ray put a bullet in the back of Archer’s head? ---
**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/39 "2013-01-22T04:02:32Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > You should. The only show funnier is _Archer!_ You could have mentioned it’s voiced by the same actor! I will now watch it. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570/40 "2013-01-22T15:46:35Z")
> [@RandMcnally](#): > > After finally getting a chance to see this episode I’ll say that I really liked it. But, why hasn’t Ray put a bullet in the back of Archer’s head? Despite the agency being called ISIS, the show is based in Greco-Roman myth. Archer is Dionysus, son of Semele, who was bewitched by Hera to forget who her child’s father was (sound familar?) God of wine/intoxication, also called the god that comes. Known for frolicking with nymph(o)s. So, what happens when you mess with Dionysus? A bunch of crazy chicks show up to kill you. Archer’s maenads are Cheryl, Pam, Lana, even Katya - Ray wouldn’t last a day, and the Barry storyline will end with the maenads taking him out once he physically hurts Archer, trust me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-17-fugue-and-riffs/647570.md?page=3)