# Archer (1/24) -- "The Wind Cries Mary"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 25, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288 "2013-01-25T03:38:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/21 "2013-01-27T12:54:54Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Mary as a [noun](http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/mary).

Oh! Ok. I missed that one completely. Never heard it before. Don’t the Brits use ‘Nancy’ in a similar way?

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/22 "2013-01-27T13:27:14Z")

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> [@Hail\_Ants](#):
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> Oh! Ok. I missed that one completely. Never heard it before. Don’t the Brits use ‘Nancy’ in a similar way?

Did you mean “Mancy”?😉

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**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/23 "2013-01-27T14:08:46Z")

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I didn’t like this episode at all, for the same reasons I didn’t like the previos one: something was just missing, though still not sure what that something is (chemistry of character interaction?).

But, _STILL_ looking forward to the next one!

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/24 "2013-01-27T16:18:29Z")

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I thought this one was stronger than the first episode but the season openers are always a little shaky in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/25 "2013-01-27T17:24:58Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I thought this one was stronger than the first episode but the season openers are always a little shaky in my opinion.

Agreed. Season 2 in particular seemed slightly meh for the first couple of episodes despite the individual awesome lines. But at some point it just kicked into high gear. So far season 3 is following a similar pattern for me - but since the awesome one-liners keep coming it is still a highly entertaining meh, to the point of not really being meh ;).

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/26 "2013-01-27T18:11:05Z")

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Once again, Krieger had some of the best moments:  
“First of all, it’s DOCTOR I’ll Solve Your Ant Problem. Second of all…here’s your refund.”

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/27 "2013-01-27T23:55:45Z")

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Also (regarding the season opener), since my wife had never heard of Bob’s Burgers, that whole schtick was lost on her. Since I had heard of it but only ever watched a couple episodes, the whole thing felt like an increasingly tedious tie-in commercial whenever they’d bring it up.

[Edit: I’m sure this came up in last week’s thread but I missed that one since I was avoiding the one-liner spoilers.]

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/28 "2013-01-28T14:54:07Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> So far season 3 is following a similar pattern for me - but since the awesome one-liners keep coming it is still a highly entertaining meh, to the point of not really being meh ;).

Nitpick… Season 4 :).

But yes, the scene at the end is great. I would have loved to seen a scene with Kreger actually having ant strength though (like lifting the tree off the other agent or something)

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**Author:** ![Enright3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/enright3/32/2897_2.png) [@Enright3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enright3)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/29 "2013-01-28T15:16:35Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Also (regarding the season opener), since my wife had never heard of Bob’s Burgers, that whole schtick was lost on her. Since I had heard of it but only ever watched a couple episodes, the whole thing felt like an increasingly tedious tie-in commercial whenever they’d bring it up.
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> [Edit: I’m sure this came up in last week’s thread but I missed that one since I was avoiding the one-liner spoilers.]

Yep, I brought it up in last weeks thread. Only after seeing a commercial for Bob’s Burgers during the Archer episode did I realize that Archer was dressed up like Bob; and his family matched the family from the show too. To top it all off, I then didn’t find out until about 3 or 4 days later that the actor who voices Bob is the same actor who voices Archer.

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**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/30 "2013-01-28T15:33:13Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I thought this one was stronger than the first episode but the season openers are always a little shaky in my opinion.

I agree this season has had a slow start, but I thought all the previous seasons were strong out of the gate: Mole Hunt, Swiss Miss, and Heart of Archness all still crack me up.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-1-24-the-wind-cries-mary/648288/31 "2013-01-28T15:39:00Z")

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I actually liked the first episode better than this one. I don’t watch Bob’s Burgers, but I appreciated the A History of Violence parody in Ep 1. This one fell a little flat, but it’s still Archer.

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