# Archer dumping ISIS **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 11, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047 "2014-10-11T16:47:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/1 "2014-10-11T16:47:56Z")
Well [this sucks.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/10/archer-drops-isis-the-fx-series-dumps-the-spy-org-s-name-in-light-of-recent-events.html) I was really hoping that the ‘addressed’ it by having Lana be the only aware of the problem and everyone completely oblivious of world events. Or maybe everyone thinks she means the goddess Isis. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/2 "2014-10-11T17:09:30Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > Well [this sucks.](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/10/archer-drops-isis-the-fx-series-dumps-the-spy-org-s-name-in-light-of-recent-events.html) > > I was really hoping that the ‘addressed’ it by having Lana be the only aware of the problem and everyone completely oblivious of world events. Or maybe everyone thinks she means the goddess Isis. Lame, but at least the timing worked out fortuitously, since ISIS was already toast last season. From a viewer standpoint, this is pretty organic. Still, lame. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/3 "2014-10-11T17:39:36Z")
I think it was a wise decision to dump the logo before things get even uglier IRL. A shame, but what can you do? Sometimes every decision is the wrong one on some level. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/4 "2014-10-11T17:41:31Z")
Sounds like some sorta Islamic warp core breach. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/5 "2014-10-11T17:58:06Z")
They could have made the search for a new name a running joke. The Kentralized Kinetic Krewe or North American Zynergy Institution. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/6 "2014-10-11T20:25:30Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > They could have made the search for a new name a running joke. The Kentralized Kinetic Krewe or North American Zynergy Institution. Or the Undercover Agents Workplace ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/7 "2014-10-11T20:38:52Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > Or the Undercover Agents Workplace United Spy Agency? ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/8 "2014-10-11T20:43:42Z")
I understand part of the employee health plan is still the distribution of Ayds. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2014, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/9 "2014-10-11T20:46:13Z")
International Secret Intelligence Librarians “Only the president seems confused!” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Me](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mr.Me](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Me)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/10 "2014-10-12T01:23:10Z")
Of course I had to buy [this](http://www.spreadshirt.com/isis-logo-archer-tv-t-shirts-C3376A9558444) Archer t-shirt. Got to wear it in public exactly once. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/11 "2014-10-12T02:49:51Z")
Can’t say I’m surprised. As someone who is blissfully ignorant of world events, when I was hearing more and more of ISIS I thought “wait, the thing in Archer is real??” Eventually I figured out that it wasn’t, but I can’t say I blame them ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/12 "2014-10-12T02:55:08Z")
> [@Mr.Me](#): > > Of course I had to buy [this](http://www.spreadshirt.com/isis-logo-archer-tv-t-shirts-C3376A9558444) Archer t-shirt. Got to wear it in public exactly once. :smack: Why aren’t those long sleeve turtlenecks? In 4 shades of black? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/13 "2014-10-12T03:06:47Z")
I remember the TV series _The Greatest American Hero_. It was about a teacher who found a suit that gave him superpowers. The teacher’s name was Ralph Hinkley. The first episode was broadcast on March 18, 1981. On March 30, 1981, John Hinckley tried to assassinate the president. They quickly redubbed a bunch of the show’s dialogue so the other characters were calling him Ralph or Mr H. ---
**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/14 "2014-10-13T13:11:16Z")
> [@Mr.Me](#): > > Of course I had to buy [this](http://www.spreadshirt.com/isis-logo-archer-tv-t-shirts-C3376A9558444) Archer t-shirt. Got to wear it in public exactly once. :smack: Yup, I have that one, myself. Sigh. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/15 "2014-10-13T13:56:35Z")
I kind of think they could have made a lot of hay from the ISIS vs. ISIS/ISIL difference, by putting Archer and Lana in the thick of things, with hijinks galore. Can’t you see Archer just deadpanning to some terrorists that yes, he’s part of ISIS? ---
**Author:** ![DrCube](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a3d4f5/32.png) [@DrCube](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrCube)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/16 "2014-10-13T14:19:07Z")
Archer doesn’t even have a set time period. It’s foolish for them to react to current events. Woodhouse is a freaking WW1 veteran! They really should have just ignored this upstart band of desert marauders and continued their own thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/17 "2014-10-13T14:19:43Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Can’t you see Archer just deadpanning to some terrorists that yes, he’s part of ISIS? In theory, yes. In practice, it’s probably a harder sell if terrorist-ISIS just beheaded some American that morning before the episode airs. I don’t like it (in the petty sense that someone is changing my cartoon show) but I can’t fault the producers or FX for it. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/18 "2014-10-13T15:06:39Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > In theory, yes. In practice, it’s probably a harder sell if terrorist-ISIS just beheaded some American that morning before the episode airs. > > I don’t like it (in the petty sense that someone is changing my cartoon show) but I can’t fault the producers or FX for it. Something tells me that the sort of person who digs Archer isn’t going to be overly sensitive about that kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/19 "2014-10-13T15:27:31Z")
Others might: Facebook/Twitter protests, boycotts of FX, etc. FX is a business, Archer is there to make FX (and its producers/staff) money and the trouble potentially saved by preemptively changing it is worth more than the benefits of not changing it. From the sound of it, this wasn’t a capricious change. They’d been watching the real-life ISIS situation evolve and were hoping it would go away on its own. Instead it came to a head and so they ultimately made a decision. ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047/20 "2014-10-13T20:28:31Z")
> [@bump](#): > > Something tells me that the sort of person who digs Archer isn’t going to be overly sensitive about that kind of thing. Honestly, these days, sometimes I get the feeling that people who _would_ be overly sensitive about that kind of thing would _seek out_ programming by which to be offended; for validation, or for a fulcrum to lever the rest of the tribe towards their _tabu_. And, as **Jophiel** notes, network suits are traditionally [a cowardly and superstitious lot](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIx0VqOLb4Y) to begin with. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-dumping-isis/701047.md?page=2)