# Archer TV show - what the ever lovin'....? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 17, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411 "2015-07-17T13:21:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/81 "2015-07-18T00:08:34Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Wait…_King of the Hill_ is more offensive than _South Park_? :smack: (If it’s even offensive in the first place, that is) I was gonna say… What’s offensive about _King of the Hill_? Especially compared with _South Park_, where it feels there’s a Cartman Jew put-down almost every episode. And this episode of _Archer_, if it’s the one I’m thinking of (the “mole” episode) has Archer beating the shit out of Pam with one of her HR stuffed animals, causing her to get stitches. It’s offensive comedy all around. Personally, I think it’s funny as shit (at least the first three seasons), but I understand why many wouldn’t like it. The whole racist/sexist/classist hero archetype they’re playing around with is hilarious (to my tastes, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/82 "2015-07-18T08:42:09Z")
Archer: Wait, there are animals? Lana: No, Animal Farm. Cyril: How do you not get that? Archer: No, I know what an animal farm is. Cyril: Not an animal farm. Archer: Maybe we can stampede a flock of goats down the hall. Lana: ANIMAL FARM IS A BOOK! Archer: No, it’s not Lana. It’s an allegorical novella about Stalinism by George Orwell, and spoiler alert, IT SUCKS. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/83 "2015-07-18T12:09:21Z")
Well whether you want to hear it or not Archer IS an insensitive jackass, he keeps calling Lana a quadriloon? or some other outdated term even though she hates it, that is the joke. Also curry jokes or jokes about Indian food causing gastro intestinal distress or smelling awful are pretty common in American sitcoms etc. Not saying I agree with it(smells bad WTF?) but just saying it is common. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/84 "2015-07-18T12:24:10Z")
I have a theory that the omnipresent American jokes about the stink of curry are not actually about curry, because I mean it isn’t the 1950s you can go find a wide variety of curries in a grocery in any major US city and smell them and confirm they actually smell good. I think the joke is referring to asafoetida in particular. > **[Asafoetida](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asafoetida)** > > Asafoetida (/æsəˈfɛtɪdə/; also spelled asafetida) is the dried latex (gum oleoresin) exuded from the rhizome or tap root of several species of Ferula, perennial herbs of the carrot family. It is produced in: Iran, Afghanistan, Central Asia, northern India and Northwest China (Xinjiang). Different regions have different botanical sources. > Asafoetida has a pungent smell, as reflected in its name, lending it the common name of "stinking gum". The odour dissipates upon cooking; in cooked dishes, ... > [@](#): > > As its name suggests, asafoetida has a fetid smell Either that or it is just a general anti-foreign bit of humor, like the Mexican food causing diarrhea jokes. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/85 "2015-07-18T12:31:08Z")
> [@Tamerlane](#): > > One of the funnier things is that Archer is incredibly dense creature of pure impulse on the one hand, yet an oddly savant-like auto-didact about obscure topics and is in fact an almost super-humanly capable action figure. He actually is a very good James Bond-cartoon-level spy. Anything involving action, you’d want him on your side. Anything other than that…welllll…not so much. Yes this characterization bugged me at first, how can he be such an idiot but also so educated on bizarre random topics? Then I realized that is part of the joke, they will also randomly have Archer accuse one of his colleagues falsely of being insensitive in racial or ethnic terms but he is the biggest offender. Something like the following I made up: Lana:I love Eskimo Pies! Archer: Lana,geez! They prefer the term Inuit. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/86 "2015-07-18T15:05:48Z")
> [@grude](#): > > I have a theory that the omnipresent American jokes about the stink of curry are not actually about curry, because I mean it isn’t the 1950s you can go find a wide variety of curries in a grocery in any major US city and smell them and confirm they actually smell good. > > I think the joke is referring to asafoetida in particular. > > [Asafoetida - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asafoetida) I doubt it. Plenty of Indian food does not have asafoetida/hing in it, yet I still know people who dislike the general smell of Indian food. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/87 "2015-07-18T15:07:42Z")
> [@grude](#): > > Well whether you want to hear it or not Archer IS an insensitive jackass, he keeps calling Lana a quadriloon? or some other outdated term even though she hates it, that is the joke. The exchange was: Archer: Well you’re black-ish Lana: Black-ish?! Archer: What do you want me to say?! You freaked out when I called you a quadroon! Don’t think she is a quadroon though. Both her parents are black istr. ---
**Author:** ![grude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47774/32.png) [@grude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grude)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/88 "2015-07-18T15:49:33Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > The exchange was: > Archer: Well you’re black-ish > Lana: Black-ish?! > Archer: What do you want me to say?! You freaked out when I called you a quadroon! > > Don’t think she is a quadroon though. Both her parents are black istr. Yup thats it thanks, I could swear they have had more than one call back to it too. I recently watched the Asian pirates episodes.(where Archer becomes the leader). ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/89 "2015-07-18T16:41:51Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > The exchange was: > Archer: Well you’re black-ish > Lana: Black-ish?! > Archer: What do you want me to say?! You freaked out when I called you a quadroon! > > Don’t think she is a quadroon though. Both her parents are black istr. They could be 1/4 each. ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/90 "2015-07-18T17:50:51Z")
I’ve seen a lot of _Archer_ episodes, but not “Skytanic”. That was petty good. Thanks to all those who recommended it. Bonus: I was unfamiliar with the Judge Crater reference. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/91 "2015-07-18T18:59:01Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Don’t think she is a quadroon though. Both her parents are black istr. As a general term for “mixed (African/European) race” she may have European ancestry from her grandparents. The script of the premiere that I linked says that Lana is mixed race when it first describes her: > [@](#): > > LANA KANE: Archer’s ex. She’s about 30, with deep sloe eyes, > an impossibly gorgeous mixed-race complexion, and an island- > tinged British accent that would melt a framing hammer. I don’t know that the accent is there but I assume it was written before casting was decided on. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/92 "2015-07-18T19:13:13Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > No. But if they’re Pam’s boobies, you’re still pretty fucked up. But didn’t she get hot rockin’ new ones in the later seasons? Yeah. I’m pretty fucked up. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/93 "2015-07-18T19:20:34Z")
I definitely support **Anaamika** ’s right not to enjoy the show, though I admit it makes me sad. Funny that I found this thread on the day I’m wearing my [Archer t-shirt](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q8EORVmJL._SX342_.jpg). > [@jsgoddess](#): > > My husband generally has to watch “Archer” when I’m not in the room because I very quickly grew tired of the vomiting sound effects. This also makes me sad. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/94 "2015-07-18T22:48:30Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Clueless brain-dead racists will always be clueless brain-dead racists, and will celebrate the show for what it isn’t. Is that the core of Archer’s audience? I have no clue. The people I know who like Archer aren’t, but it’s not like my conversations with racists last more than 3 minutes, or occur more than once. I like Archer, but I am not a racist. I laugh at Archer because he is an ass. He run off at the mouth, and offends everybody. And, in the end, he hurts himself. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/95 "2015-07-18T22:55:03Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > But didn’t she get hot rockin’ new ones in the later seasons? > > Yeah. I’m pretty fucked up. 😉 She had a cocaine habit during the “Archer Vice” season and lost a bunch of weight while her boobs remained the same size. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/96 "2015-07-18T23:01:10Z")
> [@Whiskey\_Dickens](#): > > I am more than a little offended by the term “East Indian.” I would appreciate it if the term was just shortened to the more acceptable “Indian.” > > “East Indian” harks back to a hate-filled time when Native Americans were called “Indians.” Are you for real? As others pointed out, Indian as a term for Native American is still used all the time, including by Native Americans themselves (there’s an “Indian casino” near me for example, and that’s how they market themselves). I’d also be willing to bet you _aren’t_ an Indian or Native American. And of course as we know the term came about from a misunderstanding, there was and is no hate or malice intended in the term. What makes you think there was ever anything “hate-filled” about the term? (I mean, aside from the mass genocide and exploitation of the people themselves, which had nothing to do with the name used to describe them) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/97 "2015-07-19T01:44:04Z")
I agree you shouldn’t watch it. 88 episodes of curry jokes. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/98 "2015-07-19T02:09:22Z")
> [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](#): > > I tried to watch Archer, but I can’t get past Ben Katz’s voice coming out of his mouth. I can’t watch Bob’s Burgers for the same reason - Archer’s voice coming out of Bob’s mouth is too weird (and yes, I’ve seen the “crossover”). I’m going to guess **Anaamika** is also not a Big Bang Theory fan. Stupid Indian food and culture jokes galore, I swear to cow. ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/99 "2015-07-19T03:37:12Z")
You guys are not seeing the forest for the trees. Sterling Archer is neither a racist nor a bigot. He’s just, an idiot. He’s very good at his trade craft (being a spy) but emotionally, socially and common sense-wise he’s a twelve year old. He thinks the world works they way it does in all the TV shows and even cartoons that he watched while growing up completely neglected by his mother and lacking a father. His huge ego causes him to be selfish and narcissistic but he’s way too immature to be racist. _“Grover Cleveland called, he wants his watch back. He left two non-consecutive messages!”_ ---
**Author:** ![nicky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f0a364/32.png) [@nicky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicky)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/100 "2015-07-19T11:04:09Z")
im surprised the op is offended by archer “indian food stinks” seems to be a common comment on us tv at least in archer, its being proposed by a character whose defined as being a stupid obnoxious arsehole [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411.md?page=6)