# Archer TV show - what the ever lovin'....? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 17, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411 "2015-07-17T13:21:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![HowSoonIsThen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e56c9b/32.png) [@HowSoonIsThen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HowSoonIsThen)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/101 "2015-07-19T12:08:19Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I can’t watch Bob’s Burgers for the same reason - Archer’s voice coming out of Bob’s mouth is too weird (and yes, I’ve seen the “crossover”). I like both shows, but his voice seems much more suited to Bob’s Burgers. I’ve always felt the design of Archer never matched the voice of the character. But the same could be said for all the characters in that show, so maybe it’s part of the joke. ---
**Author:** ![SykoSkotty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c0e974/32.png) [@SykoSkotty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SykoSkotty)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/102 "2015-07-19T13:59:23Z")
My perspective: When Archer says something racist/offensive, I’m not laughing at _what_ he said, I’m laughing at the fact that Archer _thinks_ what he said was totally appropriate. There’s a HUGE difference between the two. I’d say that’s fairly classic Archer. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/103 "2015-07-19T16:13:23Z")
> [@SykoSkotty](#): > > My perspective: > > When Archer says something racist/offensive, I’m not laughing at _what_ he said, I’m laughing at the fact that Archer _thinks_ what he said was totally appropriate. > > There’s a HUGE difference between the two. > > I’d say that’s fairly classic Archer. This. When his Mother gives one of her acidic, anti-poor people snippy remarks, what is funny is how out of touch she is. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/104 "2015-07-19T18:19:26Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > His huge ego causes him to be selfish and narcissistic but he’s way too immature to be racist. This might be the weirdest thing I’ve ever read in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/105 "2015-07-19T18:26:53Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Sterling Archer is neither a racist nor a bigot. He’s just, an idiot. Since when have “stupid” and “bigot” been mutually exclusive categories? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/106 "2015-07-19T19:11:06Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Since when have “stupid” and “bigot” been mutually exclusive categories? They kinda overlap. Like, a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/107 "2015-07-19T19:34:54Z")
I watched the first season and a bit. I wanted to like it—because I love Jon Benjamin and Aisha Tyler—but it just couldn’t hold my attention. It’s really just jackass, dumbass, and gross-out humor. It has no depth at all. ---
**Author:** ![JKilez](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e5b9ba/32.png) [@JKilez](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKilez)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2015, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/108 "2015-07-19T23:16:01Z")
> [@sparky\_1](#): > > Unfortunately, the show after Season 3 has been unwatchable. > > But Seasons 1, 2 & 3 are fantastic! > [@pulykamell](#): > > Personally, I think it’s funny as shit (at least the first three seasons), but I understand why many wouldn’t like it. There is so much Archer love on this board that I am glad I am not alone in thinking the later seasons suffered. Season 4 definitely stumbled a bit, but season 5 was just a mess. Hopefully season 6 got things back on track–I have yet to see any of those episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 10:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/109 "2015-07-20T10:37:50Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Since when have “stupid” and “bigot” been mutually exclusive categories? I suppose there’s a difference between “bigotry through ignorance” where you’re completely clueless how offensive what you said is and “bigotry through malice” where you’re deliberately being nasty, but it’s all bigotry. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/110 "2015-07-20T10:40:43Z")
We got a kick out of Archer the first couple of seasons. Then it turned jackass-y in the “This is no longer funny, just stupid” kind of way. We haven’t watched it since. ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/111 "2015-07-20T14:29:51Z")
> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > This. > > When his Mother gives one of her acidic, anti-poor people snippy remarks, what is funny is how out of touch she is. I love Archer (the show, not the character). When either Mallory or Sterling say something racist/homophobic/or whatever nasty thing they blurt, I’m laughing because I’m marveling at what horrible, horrible people they are. It’s kind of the same with Pam, too, although I do admire her farmgirl strength and willingness to get into physical fights with men. Carol/Sheryl is a hysterically funny freak show. The only character with any redeeming traits or maturity is Lana. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/112 "2015-07-20T14:45:52Z")
> [@JcWoman](#): > > The only character with any redeeming traits or maturity is Lana. Ray started out looking like a competent agent, sort of the type keeping ISIS in business while Archer was being Archer. Then he became more of a main character so they had to play up facets and boil his character down to “gay” and “can/can’t walk”. I don’t know if they did anything new with him in the last season. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/113 "2015-07-20T14:49:25Z")
> [@JKilez](#): > > There is so much Archer love on this board that I am glad I am not alone in thinking the later seasons suffered. Season 4 definitely stumbled a bit, but season 5 was just a mess. Hopefully season 6 got things back on track–I have yet to see any of those episodes. Season 6 started promising, but back slid. For some reason, the writers keep trying to get Archer away from what made it great. They keep wandering off the spy agency as a metaphor for everyone’s workplace; they kind of don’t keep up the weird disjointed timeline where it’s the the 1960s, 1980s and 21st century all at the same time; and the writing isn’t as crisp as the first season Chekov’s gun joke that came out of no where. Still, a crappy season of Archer is better than the best season of most everything else. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/114 "2015-07-20T15:31:36Z")
Think of Archer as Eric Cartman, Super Spy. The closest thing I can think of in terms of movies is _Burn After Reading_, in which everyone’s an idiot, everyone’s incompetent, no one has a clue what’s happening, and problems are resolved to no one’s satisfaction. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/115 "2015-07-20T15:42:37Z")
Woodhouse has passed on, and…wait…I had something for this: > **[George Coe, Oscar-Nominated Actor and SAG Activist, Dies at 86](https://variety.com/2015/film/news/george-coe-dead-sag-1201543614/)** > > George Coe, an actor with extensive credits and a longtime activist in the Screen Actors Guild, died Saturday in Santa Monica, Calif., after battling a long illness. He was 86. Coe acted for more t… ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/116 "2015-07-20T15:58:54Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Woodhouse has passed on, and…wait…I had something for this: > > [George Coe Dead: Oscar-Nominated Actor, SAG Activist Dies at 86](http://variety.com/2015/film/news/george-coe-dead-sag-1201543614/) I’m real sorry to hear this. Woodhouse was among my favorite characters, not least because he was moderately competent. Oh, and a heroin junkie too, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/117 "2015-07-20T16:10:28Z")
Come on guys, Woodhouse isn’t people. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/118 "2015-07-20T16:24:37Z")
> [@lost4life](#): > > Woodhouse has passed on, and…wait…I had something for this: > > [George Coe Dead: Oscar-Nominated Actor, SAG Activist Dies at 86](http://variety.com/2015/film/news/george-coe-dead-sag-1201543614/) I guess this means the Pope is dead too. ---
**Author:** ![lost4life](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@lost4life](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lost4life)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/119 "2015-07-20T16:24:40Z")
Be a lad, put on some Mingus. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411/120 "2015-07-20T16:50:32Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I watched the first season and a bit. I wanted to like it—because I love Jon Benjamin and Aisha Tyler—but it just couldn’t hold my attention. It’s really just jackass, dumbass, and gross-out humor. It has no depth at all. It really is the lowest of low-brow humor. I loved it at the beginning, but the longer it goes the less I enjoy it. I think I’m getting desensitized to it, and without the “shock” of it, the humor isn’t as strong. I still\* like\* the show, but not nearly to the same degree that I liked the first couple of season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archer-tv-show-what-the-ever-lovin/725411.md?page=7)