# Archer's back tomorrow

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 14, 2011, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272 "2011-09-14T10:32:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/61 "2011-09-20T19:50:58Z")

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“What don’t you understand?”  
“The core concept, obviously!”

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/62 "2011-09-20T19:56:24Z")

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While the episode was great overall, the best line (that nobody ever seems to appreciate) is Archer in the background:

“Hooray for metaphors!”

-Joe

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/63 "2011-09-20T20:08:21Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> All I know about this show is that the wiki article needs a much better explanation of the show. They don’t even mention that it’s a comedy except in the side bar.
> 
> Maybe one of you guys can give me a better premise? (I’d ask you to fix the wiki article, but I’m not sure if that’s allowed here.)

James Bond meets Arrested Development (in fact, three of the voice actors are from AD).

Basically, Archer is an sarcastic, assholeish, narcissistic, womanizing, alchoholic, douchey and somewhat idiotic spy in the world’s worst spy agency that also happens to be run by his overbearing and equally self-centered mother. Although most of his sarcasm seem justified given how idiotic and spiteful most of his coworkers are. The one exception would be his ex-girlfriend, Lana, who is sort of the “straight man” Michael Bluth character in the group. Basically, like AD, they are treated as a sort of comedically dysfunctional family.

Much of the show involves the characters bickering. Usually due to Archer’s thoughlessness making situations far worse before he is inexplicably able to resolve them (usually by doing something awesome like shooting a shark in the face). It also pokes fun at a lot of spy movie tropes. For example, Archer making fun of Rip Riley’s 30s adventure film stock character look and his “wildly impractical” Catalina-ish seaplane by calling him “Sky Captain of Yesteryear” and telling him in a 30s movie voice to “watch out for that bad egg Hitler”.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/64 "2011-09-20T20:09:28Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> James Bond meets Arrested Development (in fact, three of the voice actors are from AD).

Four. David Cross was in the last episode.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/65 "2011-09-23T12:10:20Z")

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So I think last night’s episode was definitely better than the first. Less exposition, more whoring. Excellent cameo voicework by David Lo Pan.

“Your three-fifths of an opinion is noted.”

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/66 "2011-09-23T12:55:28Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> So I think last night’s episode was definitely better than the first. Less exposition, more whoring. Excellent cameo voicework by David Lo Pan.
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> “Your three-fifths of an opinion is noted.”

Hah! So it was Lo Pan. I figured, but even though I’ve seen the guy in a million movies I can never remember his name to look for him in the credits.

Still not enough of the supporting cast. And I still think that Brock Ripley will be another father candidate - something like he’ll have had amnesia that wiped out 20 years of memory or something.

I also loved how Ray and Lana got captured. Sooooooo stupid.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/67 "2011-09-23T12:56:30Z")

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It’s actually James Hong, but he’ll always be David Lo Pan to me.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/68 "2011-09-23T13:21:51Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> It’s actually James Hong, but he’ll always be David Lo Pan to me.

Me too. I just can’t ever remember the “James Hong” part.

And I can’t believe they passed up a chance to use _Danger Zone_ once Lana got led into the cell!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/69 "2011-09-23T13:32:44Z")

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Oddly, he showed up in the regular cast list, not with the “Guest Starring” list of David Cross and Patrick Warburton. So maybe Bucky will become a regular?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/70 "2011-09-23T13:51:42Z")

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> [@muldoonthief](#):
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> Oddly, he showed up in the regular cast list, not with the “Guest Starring” list of David Cross and Patrick Warburton. So maybe Bucky will become a regular?

Well, the seperate page for the guest stars is new - didn’t used to be there.

Maybe Cross and Warburton have better agents than everyone else? I actually didn’t see Cross’s name the first time I looked for him because it wasn’t on the page with everyone else.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/71 "2011-09-23T15:25:32Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> While the episode was great overall, the best line (that nobody ever seems to appreciate) is Archer in the background:
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> “Hooray for metaphors!”

“She literally vomited from anger.”

Last night’s was kind of a dud with me. I laughed a couple times (“…and rice!”) but if I had to pick an episode I was never allowed to watch again, this would be the one.

Speaking of, Cheryl/Carol looks different to me. Like she’s drawn differently but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Am I just insane?

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/72 "2011-09-23T15:36:21Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Speaking of, Cheryl/Carol looks different to me. Like she’s drawn differently but I can’t quite put my finger on it. Am I just insane?

Something is subtly different. It’s almost like her colors are bolder. Other than that, her hair was disheveled.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/73 "2011-09-24T03:10:11Z")

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“I never realized how heavily dependent we are on idioms!”

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**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/74 "2011-09-24T03:39:52Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Something is subtly different. It’s almost like her colors are bolder. Other than that, her hair was disheveled.
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> -Joe

Guessing from Mallory’s insistence that Carol/Cheryl stay by the phone in case Archer or Lana calls, I’d say that C/C has been awake, with maybe short naps/dozing in her chair, for a period of time measured in days instead of hours. Disheveled hair, as noted, plus her eyeshadow/coloring around her eyes seemed slightly more pronounced – meant to represent sunken, sleep-deprived eyes? Yeah, reaching, I know. Like this show is that cerebral. 😉

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/75 "2011-09-24T14:50:09Z")

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> [@tripthicket](#):
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> Guessing from Mallory’s insistence that Carol/Cheryl stay by the phone in case Archer or Lana calls, I’d say that C/C has been awake, with maybe short naps/dozing in her chair, for a period of time measured in days instead of hours. Disheveled hair, as noted, plus her eyeshadow/coloring around her eyes seemed slightly more pronounced – meant to represent sunken, sleep-deprived eyes? Yeah, reaching, I know. Like this show is that cerebral. 😉

I don’t know that I’d ever call it cerebral (though how many shows demonstrate the importance of idioms outside of Sesame Street?), but they do have a good attention to detail.

-Joe

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/76 "2011-09-25T10:28:47Z")

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I don’t know, a show with a Chekov’s gun joke about a gun called Chekov is pretty cerebral.

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**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/77 "2011-09-25T21:10:47Z")

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and woefully esoteric. [UPROXX – The Culture Of Now](http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2011/01/the-ten-most-obsure-archer-jokes-explained)

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/78 "2011-09-26T01:36:46Z")

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> [@Merijeek](#):
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> Something is subtly different. It’s almost like her colors are bolder. Other than that, her hair was disheveled.
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> -Joe

She was specifically drawn to look tired, like she had been at the office without rest for days.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/79 "2011-09-30T11:49:45Z")

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Last week’s episode didn’t do much for me but this week’s had the old magic.

“‘Dungeon-us’ crab?? Just kidding… Crab rangoon.”

“Hello?? _Columbia House_?” (made better by the first time sounding like just “Columbia” if you weren’t paying attention)

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2011, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archers-back-tomorrow/596272/80 "2011-09-30T12:15:14Z")

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It’s an idiom!

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