# Archie Andrews pops the question

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 28, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918 "2009-05-28T11:45:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/61 "2009-08-01T04:15:47Z")

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Marvel Comics “What The…?!” #4, from 1988 did a fun take on Archie’s future …

[Page 1](http://www.mister-rik.com/hosted/starchy01.jpg)  
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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/62 "2009-08-01T05:00:54Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Wow. Betty sounds like an idiot.

Yeah, but she’s hot and, not being a rich bitch like Veronica, you know she puts out.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 6:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/63 "2009-08-01T06:39:53Z")

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> [@Tengu](#):
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> I’m not a huge fan of Ronnie, but why would you inflect Mantle on her?

Have you read the Archie comics at all? If you have you probably notice what a conniving rich bitch Veronica is! Let her and Reggie battle like a pair of Kilkenny cats!

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/64 "2009-08-01T07:12:04Z")

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Ronnie has nothing on Reggie - she’s shallow and self-centred, sure, but she’s nowhere near as actively malignant as he is.

Ronnie’s never anything but Betty (and sometimes Cheryl)'s rival for Archie - Reggie’s an outright villain, as often as not.

Ronnie needs to grow up, Reggie needs incarceration.

Tellingly, when they’re given superpowered identities in the 60s, Reggie becomes Evilheart, the enemy of Archie’s Pureheart, but Ronnie never became a villain in Betty’s Super-Teen stories. (She never got superpowers at all until the 90s - the only one of the core 5 not to, as Juggie became Captain Hero. I never read the Super Teens series, but, if the synopses I’m seeing are correct, she became a shallow superheroine, not a villainess.)

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/65 "2009-08-01T07:27:23Z")

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In any case, I regard the Andrews-Lodge-Cooper triangle as similar to that between the main characters of _Dynasty_, with Ronnie having all the appeal of Alexis Carrington Colby (which is to say, scarcely any!).

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2009, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/66 "2009-08-01T12:29:18Z")

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Note Reggie likes to cheat on Ronie with Midge Clump.

Moose Mason’s girlfriend. :eek::smack:

Thus proving that Reggie has a strong self-destructive streak.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 6:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/67 "2009-08-02T06:42:27Z")

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A death wish, to be sure.  
Then again, Moose may see _Jughead_ with Midge and think he is having “hallusinerations and garages.”

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/68 "2009-08-02T06:47:52Z")

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What else did he pop?

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**Author:** ![Raguleader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/258eb7/32.png) [@Raguleader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raguleader)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/69 "2009-08-02T10:12:14Z")

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Obviously Archie marries Veronica, then once he gets access to the Lodge gillions, keeps Betty in a nicely furnished apartment in the Upper East Side (of Riverdale) for those nights when Veronica is away being the UN ambassador for starving children in Krakhozia.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_McAwful](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e99b99/32.png) [@Larry\_McAwful](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_McAwful)\
**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/70 "2009-08-02T19:35:18Z")

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If I were writing Archie comics, I’d marry him with Veronica, too. The Archie Andrews/Hiram Lodge tension is well established, so with Archie in the family, there’d be a richer field to draw on for writing.

If it were up to me, though, I’d marry Archie off to [Lisa Leavenworth](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8ie37mgxIXA/SFiCOkSD-3I/AAAAAAAADJo/Ih1e2UVHtVM/s1600-h/buddy+11+buddy+and+lisa.jpg).

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**Post date:** [August 2, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/71 "2009-08-02T23:24:02Z")

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Little Nemo: You are a cad, sir. 😃 True, he regularly pummels Beetle Bailey, but there is no way Sgt. Snorkel, a man who does his best to serve his country, deserves Anthony.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/72 "2009-08-03T06:52:42Z")

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> [@Raguleader](#):
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> Obviously Archie marries Veronica, then once he gets access to the Lodge gillions, keeps Betty in a nicely furnished apartment in the Upper East Side (of Riverdale) for those nights when Veronica is away being the UN ambassador for starving children in Krakhozia.

Make that last part read, “The UN ambassador who starves children in Krakhozia.” It’s more in keeping with her snobbish, me-first attitude. I think Archie is nuts to waste time with that brunet minx.

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**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/73 "2009-08-03T07:57:52Z")

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> [@chowder](#):
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> Just a minute, isn’t/wasn’t Archie Andrews a puppet operated by ventriloquist Peter Brough?

Exactly my thought, and I suspect the thought of many other Brit Dopers _d’un certain age_. How the hell can a dummy pop the question and anyway wouldn’t he have been used for firewood decades ago?

[Archie Andrews](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archie_Andrews_%28puppet%29)

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [August 3, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-andrews-pops-the-question/497918/74 "2009-08-03T08:10:56Z")

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Heck no–that would be Reggie. With all that greasy kid stuff he puts in his hair!😃

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