# Archie Comics to reveal Jughead's sexual orientation **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 9, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647 "2016-02-09T20:24:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/21 "2016-02-10T00:49:18Z")
Sshhh… forget I said that. I’m just “too” paranoid. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/22 "2016-02-10T00:53:41Z")
> [@the\_diego](#): > > In trying to eradicate traditional all-white culture That explains a few things. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/23 "2016-02-10T00:58:14Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > And “Betty and Whatsername”? Come _on_. “Whatsername” because the entire Archie line was 100% rebooted about 4 months back. Veronica just met Archie like 2 issues ago and has only met Jughead a few times in passing. That didn’t particularly bother me. ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/24 "2016-02-10T01:14:13Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Does this mean we have to add an A to LGBTQQ? I’ve heard QUILTBAG–Queer, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay–as one of the suggested variants. ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/25 "2016-02-10T02:04:55Z")
I like the rebooted Archie (along with Afterlife with Archie and the extremely creepy Sabrina). I’m bummed that Fiona Staples isn’t doing the art anymore, though. I loved her first three issues. Jughead being asexual doesn’t surprise me at all. It was either that or gay, and they’ve already got that covered with Kevin. ---
**Author:** ![Shakester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shakester/32/437_2.png) [@Shakester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shakester)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/26 "2016-02-10T03:51:04Z")
Jughead’s [hat](http://learning2share.blogspot.com.au/2009/04/search-term-jugheads-hat.html) is not a crown. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/27 "2016-02-10T04:22:32Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > “Whatsername” because the entire Archie line was 100% rebooted about 4 months back. Closer to 8. Archie started in July, and Jughead in October. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/28 "2016-02-10T06:24:03Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > There was a comic book story once–I think it was connected to the [Archie:To Riverdale and Back Again](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099054/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) TV movie–where the gang, much older, gets together for their 20th Anniversary and Jughead is married to the surprisingly okay-looking Ethel (formerly known as Big Ethel). Or was it Midge? It’s been a while. Gene Colan, of all people, drew it. Note that asexual doesn’t mean “doesn’t want romantic companionship at all.” It just means… doesn’t want to have sex. I have a couple asexual friends, one wants to date and cuddle, maybe closed lip kissing sometimes, but they find it hard to find someone because most people, unsurprisingly, want to have sex with a partner. They’ve taken to using a dating site geared towards asexuals. These people may well get married. Hell, they may have kids, some asexuals end up having sex just for procreation but they don’t really desire or enjoy it. The other is content being totally alone, friendships but nothing else. I haven’t read Archie, but it sounds like Jughead is more of the latter. (Of course, in this case it’s more of a standard comic book continuity snarl due to different writers) Asexual is kind of just like setting a person’s libido value to a permanent zero, you may love someone but never have the desire to have sex. ---
**Author:** ![typoink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@typoink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/typoink)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/29 "2016-02-10T19:00:41Z")
One of the things that might make this make more sense is to understand that the new Archie books are ACTUALLY being targeted at high school and college aged readers. They’re not twee midcentury romances written to be strictly kid-friendly. They have a tone and style that’s more like an MTV show, but a little less self-serious and “friendlier.” Asexuality is more accepted or, at least, discussed concept within that demo. Addressing it makes sense to me; it’s simple enough to state it and move on and it really doesn’t impact Jughead’s character. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/30 "2016-02-10T20:23:54Z")
> [@typoink](#): > > One of the things that might make this make more sense is to understand that the new Archie books are ACTUALLY being targeted at high school and college aged readers. They’re not twee midcentury romances written to be strictly kid-friendly. They have a tone and style that’s more like an MTV show, but a little less self-serious and “friendlier.” > > Asexuality is more accepted or, at least, discussed concept within that demo. Addressing it makes sense to me; it’s simple enough to state it and move on and it really doesn’t impact Jughead’s character. But mentioning it helps make those who are asexual feel more included in the world. And it makes allies feel good that the aces can feel more included. It’s actually prototypical PC, in my opinion. And that’s a good thing. Why not make people feel better when it costs so little? ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/31 "2016-02-10T21:57:31Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > That’s going to ruin a couple of scenes in _Chasing Amy_. Regarding his hat/crown, there’s a relevant [picture](http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/behold/2016/02/PM%20New%20York%20Daily/MartinHarris_Mott_Street_Terrors.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg) in [this](http://www.slate.com/blogs/behold/2016/02/10/steven_kasher_gallery_presents_the_exhibition_pm_new_york_daily_1940_48.html) new Slate article. But what about Mr. Weatherbee? ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/32 "2016-02-10T23:58:51Z")
Happen to be reading Vonnegut’s _Deadeye Dick_ right now while meanwhile browsing here, and since I like to connect different activities to enrich all, I’ll relate here that the title character dreams that someday all “neuters” will come out of the closet and form a parade, and carry a banner “as wide as Fifth Avenue” bearing the simple word “EGREGIOUS” in letters four feet high (which I have not tried to do here). He goes on to explain that the word’s true definition is more interesting than usually assumed:“outside the herd”. ---
**Author:** ![stegon66](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ee59a6/32.png) [@stegon66](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stegon66)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/33 "2016-02-11T02:04:10Z")
> [@](#): > > I like the rebooted Archie (along with Afterlife with Archie and the extremely creepy Sabrina). I like AWA too…when they deign to release an issue. Never bothered with Sabrina which I hear has also been plagued with interminable delays. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/34 "2016-02-11T03:17:20Z")
> [@AppallingGael](#): > > Happen to be reading Vonnegut’s _Deadeye Dick_ right now while meanwhile browsing here, and since I like to connect different activities to enrich all, I’ll relate here that the title character dreams that someday all “neuters” will come out of the closet and form a parade, and carry a banner “as wide as Fifth Avenue” bearing the simple word “EGREGIOUS” in letters four feet high (which I have not tried to do here). He goes on to explain that the word’s true definition is more interesting than usually assumed:“outside the herd”. The definition ([in my googling)](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/egregious) is less “outside the herd” as an “outsider”, and more rises up from or stands out from the herd as something excellent or special. > [@](#): > > 1530s, “distinguished, eminent, excellent,” from Latin egregius “distinguished, excellent, extraordinary,” from the phrase ex grege “rising above the flock,” from ex “out of” (see ex- ) + grege, ablative of grex “herd, flock” (see gregarious ). > > Disapproving sense, now predominant, arose late 16c., originally ironic and is not in the Latin word, which etymologically means simply “exceptional.” Related: Egregiously ; egregiousness. ---
**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/35 "2016-02-11T05:10:39Z")
> [@astro](#): > > The definition ([in my googling)](http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/egregious) is less “outside the herd” as an “outsider”, and more rises up from or stands out from the herd as something excellent or special. Egregious, dude! ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2016, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/36 "2016-02-11T15:16:25Z")
I’m more distracted by the fact that Jughead and the other guy switch sides from panels 3 and 4. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/37 "2016-02-12T00:12:15Z")
Isn’t Riverdale somewhere in Utah? Let’s look at the evidence: –Archie has two girlfriends, the road to polygamy –Almost all his friends are white –Plenty of malt shops, not so many bars –Everyone always dresses like it’s 30 years prior, and always has ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/38 "2016-02-12T06:11:53Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I’m more distracted by the fact that Jughead and the other guy switch sides from panels 3 and 4. That sort of thing tends to happen during walks. You didn’t notice they’d also moved from the hallway into the boy’s locker room? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/39 "2016-02-12T13:01:13Z")
> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#): > > Isn’t Riverdale somewhere in Utah? Let’s look at the evidence: > –Archie has two girlfriends, the road to polygamy > –Almost all his friends are white > –Plenty of malt shops, not so many bars > –Everyone always dresses like it’s 30 years prior, and always has Are there a lot of beaches in Utah? Because they seem to go to the beach a lot. The kind with [waves](https://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/n_iv/600/627685.jpg). I always thought New England-ish, from the Lodge-Cabot Brahmin factor in _Archie_ and _Josie_. Plus, you know, witches. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2016, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647/40 "2016-02-12T13:12:28Z")
Jughead’s sexual orientation never, ever crossed my mind. Moose, OTOH… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/archie-comics-to-reveal-jugheads-sexual-orientation/745647.md?page=3)