Architectural features that are stupid or ugly

Yes, which is what I was trying to say in post #22. It’s for this very reason that the dingbat neighborhoods of East Hollywood became nuclei of various immigrant communities. My former dingbat is in both Thai Town and Little Armenia—the two largest communities of those respective countries outside of the countries themselves. The area has heavy pedestrian traffic, and I walk on errands as much as I drive. It was for this reason—as much as for tourism–that the subway was built under Hollywood Blvd., with stations at both Vermont and Western, in addition to Vine.

And while, from the street, dingbats may seem alienating and car-oriented, the East Hollywood dingbat has become—as a result of historical accident, if nothing else—something quite different. Because the first generation immigrant families typically have lower car-to-person ratios, and higher person-to-apartment unit ratios, entry and egress to the building is heavier through the front entrance than the garage. This is usually the pool courtyard, too. In my dingbat–especially in summer when the non-air-conditioned interiors of apartments are nearly unbearable for congregating—the landings and pool-sides become gathering places for adults and children equally. The Armenia babushkas sit on the balconies, drinking [del]Turkish[/del] Armenian coffee and gossiping about who-knows-what while their grandchildren play with the Salvadorean and Korean kids in the pool. The Guatemalans next door always invite everyone to their parties, so no one will complain about the punta and reggeton blaring late into Saturday night.

The summers can become maddening, because all the windows are open, with all the sounds and languages that they release into the courtyard, and the concrete surfaces of the pool areas echo unrelentingly. My dingbat’s pool area is side-by-side with the next-door dingbat. They tore down the wall separating them so that one adult could always be on duty watching all the kids of both buildings in both pools, by some kind of rotation they somehow worked out at a big meeting one Sunday night. By the middle of the day on Saturday, I sometimes just have to walk away to the relative quiet of Griffith Park to think straight. However, I will say that, as a linguist, it’s pretty interesting for me to hear how the children code-switch from their native languages to English with each other, and back again to their native tongues, to let their parents know what’s going on.

In any case, the dingbat, which may seem from the picture that spark240 posted above to be a set of architectural features that by design are meant to alienate, has become within its plaza-like interior–by sheer immigrant will–something that actually humanizes and binds (as spark240 says), in more than a purely spatial sense, all these differences brought together from all over the world by chance into these low-rent neighborhoods. And honestly, I much prefer it to the typical West Hollywood dingbat, with its quiet, staid, antiseptic, and–well, boring atmosphere of muy muy. Yeah, the dingbat ornaments might be tackier on the eastside, and the names more comical, but the human interactions they have given rise to is more public. And the foods you can smell are just so. much. better.

What am I doing?!

I should have moved this to Cafe Society when I was in here before.
Moving it now.

Then again a hundred thousand other dingbats won through, unscathed. Just because a building has a parking area sheltered by the second story overhang doesn’t mean it’s fragile. There are usually more supporting posts in the ground floor parking area than you’d find in a ground floor room.

For getting groceries from the car to the kitchen? Not such a bad idea, if so.

Another non-residential example, and stupid rather than ugly:

The university I went to has one infamously poorly designed building. It has six staircases and an elevator, none of which provide access to every floor. The top floor appears to be divided into three distinct sections with no direct route between them. One of the staircases ends at the sixth floor, at a small balcony with a single door that leads to a women’s toilet.

This building is the Architecture building. I’m not sure whether this is ironic, or if it’s a deliberate warning to students not to fuck up.

Accent walls, yeah its a design issue and not a architectural feature, but they’re still stupid. They are the 00’s version of eggs chairs and hippie beads.

All brick on the front and aluminum siding on the other three walls is poor style.

Here’s an example, though you’ll have to squint a bit, of fake dormers along the top of a strip mall.

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My former landlords did. The bathroom and the kitchen had light pink carpets. No, really. Combine it with mix and match loud wallpaper and imagine the ugliest damn apartment ever.

As for ugly features, I vote for add-on enclosed porches, where it’s painfully obvious the walls were built in later.

Add me to the long list of complaints about carpeted bathrooms.

The lady who built my condo was elderly, and so apparently wanted warm floors in the bathroom. I, however, have little nephews. :eek:

So I just chose a contractor to gut both bathrooms and replace with tile.

On a related issue: 6-ft tall shower or shower/tub stalls. The average height of American males is approaching 6-ft. Some of us are there, or taller. Which means, if we use that shower, water bounces off our heads to splatter… everywhere. Such as, on the drywall above the shower enclosure (!), or the carpeted floor (!!).

Did I mention I’m gutting my bathrooms?

Not in the United States, in areas where basements are common. Most new houses have laundry rooms on the first floor by the kitchen, or the second floor, close to upstairs bedrooms. Basement washer/dryer hookups are a thing of the past.

We gutted both bathrooms before moving in, and the shower stall in mine was okay-sized for my six-foot self, but my 5’ 2’ plumber installed the showerhead such that when I stood under it, I would wear it like a hat.

And since the pipe came out of the wall at a 90 degree angle, we had to redo both the tile in the shower and the wall on the other side to raise it.

My neighborhood on Long Island is an old one with a mix of colonials, tudor, Cap Cods and these things that I don’t have a name for.

I wonder how many people accidentally die of carbon monoxide poising because their garage is inside their house. Also, this style house can cause it’s owner to put on the siding at an angle. Why? Do they like their ugly houses to cause vertigo?

I did mention fake dormers but I wasn’t actually sure if they exist on private houses. I was actually remembering something I saw in Mad Magazine about forty years ago, in a satire about made-up fake products to increase your status. They also showed non-working window AC units, so passersby would think you could afford air conditioning, and giant model year numerals to mount on top of your VW Beetle, so everyone would know you were driving a '68 and not a '52.

That’s a split level.

I don’t mind split levels, I don’t like 'em when the garage is inside the house.

did it make every thing look bigger?