# Are accusations of raicsm/sexism/bigotry abused? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [September 14, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332 "2018-09-14T12:26:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/321 "2018-11-01T14:00:50Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Maybe I’m just too _dangerous_. Maybe you’re just wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/322 "2018-11-01T14:02:50Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > This is basically a “no u!” and has pretty much nothing to do with my posts, so it’s probably a good place to stop. No, its me saying “hey look at these two peer reviewed studies saying you’re wrong” and you saying “but I’ve got an analysis done by a partisan group so its still up in the air” I believed the same thing you believed before we had studies showing us we were wrong. but the facts changed and so did my opinion. Why didn’t your opinion change with the change in facts? ---
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/323 "2018-11-01T14:04:14Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > You reach that “big number” by relying on very dubious assumptions. Your “real historical data” is a wiki page that only shows 55 deaths between 1687 and 2000. I’m almost positive that this is incorrect. > > It might be more accurate to look at the deaths since 2000, which seem to be better documented. ~2.5/year compared to 1200/year. That leaves us with about 400 times as many cop killings in the US compared to the UK. The USA has about 5.5 times as many people so that is a population adjusted 14 killings/year in the UK compared to ~1200/year in the US or about 90 times more. So the multiple is still staggeringly large but nowhere near the laughable 14,000 multiple you are presenting. > > Have you considered that perhaps you are too attracted to big numbers. They are frequently wrong and/or deceptive. You seem eager to believe ridiculous things that align with your preconceived notions. And if the starting point is 90X, when you introduce the fact that cops in the UK have a much, much smaller chance of being killed by a gun, that 90X seems to _maybe_ be reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/324 "2018-11-01T14:04:58Z")
It was when you quoted yourself and triumphantly claimed that **Buck** was saying this. That’s when I realized this was just about “gotcha” and points-scoring, and too silly to continue. And some of your posts since, with so much wild mischaracterization of my views, has doubly made this clear. Sorry for continuing to drag this out for so long. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/325 "2018-11-01T14:13:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If I suspected you were actually interested in a discussion, rather than “gotcha” and points-scoring, I might go further with you on this. But I no longer think this is possible, so I won’t. Best wishes and happiness in your life. > > Maybe I’m just too _dangerous_. Its not gotcha and points scoring when I prove you wrong time and time again. Frankly it wouldn’t be as embarrassing for you if you simply accepted peer reviewed studies as trumping analysis by a partisan organization, this would be less embarrassing for you. Pretty much everyone other than hard core SJW CRTs considers peer reviewed studies to be better than a pro-publica analysis. To some people, facts can be racist. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/326 "2018-11-01T14:15:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > There are all sorts of theories depending on who you listen to. > > The prevailing theory is that cops are not really killed that often: > > [https://fee.org/articles/by-the-numbers-how-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-cop/](https://fee.org/articles/by-the-numbers-how-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-cop/) That’s strange. I thought it was so dangerous to be a cop, that we have to give them the benefit of the doubt that they were so scared by a black man with a cell phone that they had to shoot him? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/327 "2018-11-01T14:16:44Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Its not gotcha and points scoring when I prove you wrong time and time again. Frankly it wouldn’t be as embarrassing for you if you simply accepted peer reviewed studies as trumping analysis by a partisan organization, this would be less embarrassing for you. Pretty much everyone other than hard core SJW CRTs considers peer reviewed studies to be better than a pro-publica analysis. > > To some people, facts can be racist. Congratulations for your well-declared victory! Declaring your own triumph is an amazing accomplishment. Kudos to you, and best wishes on your future endeavors. I’m sure you will declare much success in the future! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/328 "2018-11-01T16:29:53Z")
Why are you pro-leprosy? ---
**Author:** ![Kearsen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/82dd89/32.png) [@Kearsen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kearsen)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332/329 "2018-11-01T17:19:28Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Why are you pro-leprosy? Maybe I’ll get called by Lord Foul to the land so I can be healed! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-accusations-of-raicsm-sexism-bigotry-abused/821332.md?page=16)