# Are Aliens Visiting Earth?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 25, 2020, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949 "2020-06-25T10:13:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![rbroome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@rbroome](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rbroome)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/81 "2021-03-30T02:45:47Z")

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Did you read the article? These drones paced the destroyers traveling at 16 knots for 45 minutes and up. Up to 6 drones at a time. In poor visibility. There aren’t any consumer grade drones that can do that.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/82 "2021-03-30T03:54:48Z")

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Must be aliens visiting earth then.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/83 "2021-03-30T04:05:11Z")

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It’s an odd form of logic isn’t it?

_“I have proof of my pet theory because… here’s something we don’t understand.”_

In all seriousness I think its far more likely that there is a secret underwater race of ultra high intelligence octopii descendants who have learnt to produce ultra fast aerial vehicles than that it’s aliens. At least we know octopii exist, and are smart, and that evolution is a thing, and that there are lots of unexplored corners of the ocean. And that (having observed us) they might have good reason to stay hidden. My theory is utterly implausible but its far more plausible than “aliens”.

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/84 "2021-03-30T06:40:04Z")

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Imagine if it _were_ aliens.

All the amazing technology to travel interstellar distances (and heck, we’re probably talking at least a few hundred light years away, not just the next star over) and enter earth’s atmosphere without being seen.

All in order to…buzz around some military vehicles for a bit, inexplicably choosing no longer to be covert.

ETA: I’m not saying UFO reports are not interesting and shouldn’t be investigated. Just that “aliens” is right at the bottom of potential explanations.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/85 "2021-03-30T08:14:33Z")

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> "_Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets which haven’t made interstellar contact yet and buzz them_.
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> _They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor soul whom no one’s ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennae on their heads and making beep beep noises_.
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> _Rather childish really._"

-Ford Prefect, Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy

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**Author:** ![AlienBabble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alienbabble/32/3344_2.png) [@AlienBabble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienBabble)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/86 "2021-03-30T10:16:34Z")

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Mick West interviews former AATIP director Luis Elizondo:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Eozxt_HnPu4/maxresdefault.jpg "TFTRH #52 - Luis Elizondo: UFOs, UAPs, AATIP, and TTSA") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eozxt_HnPu4)

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**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/87 "2021-03-30T10:54:44Z")

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Elizondo completely failed to respond to Mick West’s sensible explanations for the FLIR1, GIMBAL and GOFAST clips. All he said is ‘our analysis was different’. This is not usable information at all.

If Elizondo were dedicated to getting information about UFOs out into public, he would respond in more detail. His so-called disclosure is a sham.

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**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2021, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/88 "2021-03-30T11:07:57Z")

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> [@AlienBabble](#):
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> Swarm of UFOs harass Navy ships.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Oooh, mysterious drones.

There have been flaps of ‘mysterious drones’ at Gatwick Airport and in Colorado in recent years, and no-one has even been able to catch these drones on camera yet. Each time someone comes up with a video of supposed drones, analysis demonstrates that the video shows a conventional but distant aircraft. Sometimes the witnesses still think they have seen a drone, after being shown proof to the contrary.  
I expect these ‘drone flaps’ that occur at sea have similar explanations.

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**Author:** ![AlienBabble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alienbabble/32/3344_2.png) [@AlienBabble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienBabble)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/89 "2021-04-06T05:59:08Z")

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Navy’s Chief of Naval Operations on the drones’ incursions into restricted operation zones:

> **[Navy's Top Officer Says ‘Drones’ That Swarmed Destroyers Remain Unidentified](https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40071/navys-top-officer-says-mysterious-drones-that-swarmed-destroyers-remain-unidentified)**
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> A series of bizarre events off Southern California in 2019 remain unexplained according to the Chief of Naval Operations.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2021, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/90 "2021-04-06T06:52:39Z")

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So it must be aliens.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/91 "2021-04-08T13:55:03Z")

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> [@rbroome](#):
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> Did you read the article? These drones paced the destroyers traveling at 16 knots for 45 minutes and up.

The real mystery is why those destroyers were so damn slow.

American destroyers in WWII could travel at twice that speed and up (google “31-knot Burke”).

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/92 "2021-04-08T14:37:40Z")

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They were not going their full speed.

Hard to find specific information, as it’s a bit classified, but most of what I see says that most modern destroyers have a top speed of at least 33 knots.

> **[Frigate vs destroyer: What is the difference between the two warships?](https://www.naval-technology.com/features/frigate-vs-destroyer-difference/)**
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> Warships are a key part of a navy’s surface fleet and come in a variety of shapes and sizes depending on their capabilities and functions. Two common types of warship used in most navies are frigates and destroyers. What is the difference between...

And going faster is not just a matter of putting a bigger engine in. The geometry of the hull limits how fast it can go before it pretty much has to start hydroplaning to go faster.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/93 "2021-04-08T14:52:29Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The real mystery is why those destroyers were so damn slow.
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> American destroyers in WWII could travel at twice that speed and up (google “31-knot Burke”).

Have you considered the possibility that they weren’t trying to outrun Nazi submarines off the California coast?

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**Author:** ![AlienBabble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alienbabble/32/3344_2.png) [@AlienBabble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlienBabble)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/94 "2021-04-09T14:48:20Z")

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Leaked US Navy footage shows triangular-shaped UFOs near the USS Russell. DOD to confirm the sighting:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-Pjqdaz_b24/maxresdefault.jpg "2019 the US Navy filmed “PYRAMID” shaped UFOs; here is that footage") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pjqdaz_b24)

More details below:

> **[Pictures and video show Unidentified Flying Objects moving above U.S. Navy...](https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/pictures-and-video-show-unidentified-flying-objects-moving-above-u-s-navy-warships/)**
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> Amazing images have been leaked from a secretive Pentagon investigation of UFOs. The UAP Task Force has been gathering evidence for a comprehensive report for Congress which is due in June that inc…

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/95 "2021-04-09T23:20:04Z")

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Must be aliens.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/96 "2021-04-10T00:16:13Z")

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Hey, isn’t this absolute proof that aliens built the pyramids? So this one is a few thousand years too late. Over intergalactic scales that’s practically on the dot.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/97 "2021-04-10T03:36:59Z")

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Those are Tel’taks.

> **[Tel'tak](https://stargate.fandom.com/wiki/Tel%27tak)**
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> Tel'taks are small transport ships used by the Goa'uld, the Jaffa, the Tok'ra, and the Lucian Alliance. The Tau'ri also made use of stolen Tel'taks, prior to acquiring their own hyperspace-capable vessels. A Tel'tak is a vaguely pyramid-shaped vessel...

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**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/98 "2021-04-10T08:46:19Z")

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I’ve reported a certain poster who just spams ufo links.  
It’s been about a dozen in a row with no discussion.

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**Author:** ![eburacum\_45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eburacum_45/32/3385_2.png) [@eburacum\_45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eburacum_45)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/99 "2021-04-10T08:58:55Z")

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The green video with triangular shapes appears to have been taken with a night vision scope with a triangular aperture adjuster fixed over the front end. Some people fix aperture adjusters to increase the focus of the instrument; others do it to produce specially shaped bokeh.

That’s all this is - shaped bokeh. You can see that all three lights in the clip have exactly the same orientation. I find it difficult to believe that whoever took this movie was unaware of the triangular aperture on this instrument, but I suppose it might be an innocent mistake.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2021, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-aliens-visiting-earth/912949/100 "2021-04-10T09:28:36Z")

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So you’re saying it MUST be aliens then, right? Because that’s all the OP understands.

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