# Are all the Trump threads diminishing the Straight Dope Brand?

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**Created:** [February 17, 2017, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018 "2017-02-17T00:50:56Z")\
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**Author:** ![Evan\_Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b487fb/32.png) [@Evan\_Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evan_Drake)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/21 "2017-02-17T08:01:34Z")

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Since I mentioned his approval rising a few days back:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 53% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (47%) disapprove.

it has now increased:

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 55% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-five percent (45%) disapprove.

**[Rasmussen](http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/current_events/politics/prez_track_feb16)** — 2017 - Feb - 16

So whatever you’re doing I imagine old Trumpo wants you to keep it up.

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And Rassmussen is the _only_ pollster that shows that.

[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump\_favorableunfavorable-5493.html](http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/trump_favorableunfavorable-5493.html)

All the rest, along with the average, are firmly in the red - pretty much unprecedented for a new president.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/23 "2017-02-17T11:06:40Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> If there’s a lot of threads about Donald Trump, it’s because a lot of people want to talk about Donald Trump.

But it’s the ignorance and hatred those threads are spreading that concerns me, not the quantity of threads per se.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/24 "2017-02-17T11:10:28Z")

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No, if anything, it’s OPs like THIS that are diminishing the Straight Dope Brand. Trump needs to be exposed and attacked and ridiculed at every opportunity, from every angle. It’s not merely our right, but our obligation.

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> But it’s the ignorance and hatred those threads are spreading that concerns me, not the quantity of threads per se.

You can’t stop Trump supporters from posting in those threads, you’ll just have to accept some level of ignorance.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/26 "2017-02-17T11:45:00Z")

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Two thoughts

1. Only having the worlds scummiest adverts, and plenty of them, harms the brand WAY, way more than any content ever will, in my opinion. Every user knows it too! But TPTB thinks that’s just honky dory.

2. Change the Elections forum to Politics and suddenly all the Trump posting is in one place. Posters try their best to keep Trump crap in with other political stuff, where it would seem to intuitively belong, only to find they’ve been shunted to Great Debates. (Where the die hards rule, conversation is often stilted, and many posters don’t even venture!)

I’m of the opinion that elections should either include all things politics, (especially when there are NO currently ongoing elections!), or a dedicated Politics forum should be created. Because constantly shifting political threads into various other forums, seemingly on the mods whim, isn’t helping the boards coherence at all, in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/27 "2017-02-17T11:52:57Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> Trump needs to be exposed and attacked and ridiculed at every opportunity, from every angle. It’s not merely our right, but our obligation.

Yes he does, but it needs to be done with facts, not ignorance and unfounded opinions.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/28 "2017-02-17T12:13:07Z")

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Trump is the healthiest person ever elected president, has amazing strength and stamina and lab results that are astonishingly excellent. We know these are true facts because his own doctor said so.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/29 "2017-02-17T12:22:47Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> Trump is the healthiest person ever elected president, has amazing strength and stamina and lab results that are astonishingly excellent. We know these are true facts because his own doctor said so.

Fake news! His test results were _positive._

😃

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**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/30 "2017-02-17T12:56:25Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> …  
> 2. Change the Elections forum to Politics and suddenly all the Trump posting is in one place. …

I think this is the best solution. That will at least confine the Trump threads to one place, so people who want to avoid them can do so, and they won’t see them sprinkled throughout the other forums.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/31 "2017-02-17T13:49:20Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Yes he does, but it needs to be done with facts, not ignorance and unfounded opinions.

Facts are facts. Reality is real. Existence exists. A is A. These are statements that the current president denies every day. He not only denies reality, but discredits those whose job is to spread the truth. This must be constantly fought on ALL levels, including speculation about his mental capacity. Raising these questions, _as questions,_ are not an indication of ignorance. MANY opinions are unfounded, but it never hurts to express them so they can be scrutinized and openly accepted or rejected.

> [@elbows](#):
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> Two thoughts
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> 1. Change the Elections forum to Politics and suddenly all the Trump posting is in one place. Posters try their best to keep Trump crap in with other political stuff, where it would seem to intuitively belong, only to find they’ve been shunted to Great Debates. (Where the die hards rule, conversation is often stilted, and many posters don’t even venture!)
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> I’m of the opinion that elections should either include all things politics, (especially when there are NO currently ongoing elections!), or a dedicated Politics forum should be created. Because constantly shifting political threads into various other forums, seemingly on the mods whim, isn’t helping the boards coherence at all, in my opinion.

The problem is that Trump and his rants have taken over so many other topics… politics, economics, minority rights, immigration, abortion rights, education, national security, the environment, science, the media, etc., etc., etc. Do you want all discussions of these topics to be put into a separate forum, just because some threads or posts refer to Trump? There’d be nothing left in the other forums except perhaps football and conjoined twins.

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> But it’s the ignorance and hatred those threads are spreading that concerns me, not the quantity of threads per se.

I don’t get it. Are you suggesting Dopers should stop reporting on or discussing the ignorance and hatred that spews from Trump and his minions (and many of his supporters) on a daily basis?

Aren’t we here to _fight_ ignorance? How can we contain its spread, without talking about it?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/33 "2017-02-17T14:29:49Z")

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Apparently we can’t, without talking about it in every thread, on every topic, in every forum, over and over again.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/34 "2017-02-17T14:37:50Z")

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It doesn’t hurt or help the brand; it is just the nature of the usual cycle every time the White House changes hands. I know someone called up some of the threads from when President Obama was elected; my guess is we would see the same thing back when Dubya was starting his run as well.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/35 "2017-02-17T14:38:17Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> I don’t get it. Are you suggesting Dopers should stop reporting on or discussing the ignorance and hatred that spews from Trump and his minions (and many of his supporters) on a daily basis?

Unfortunately it is the Dopers spewing the bile, hatred, and ignorance.

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**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/36 "2017-02-17T14:39:30Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> …Do you want all discussions of these topics to be put into a separate forum, just because some threads or posts refer to Trump? There’d be nothing left in the other forums except perhaps football and conjoined twins.

Um…look again. That’s not factually true. There are a lot of Trump threads, but there are also plenty of threads about other topics and some forums where he doesn’t appear at all.

> [@Shodan](#):
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> Apparently we can’t, without talking about it in every thread, on every topic, in every forum, over and over again.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Exaggerating doesn’t help make your point.

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I don’t think the issue is the number of threads per se, I think the issue is all of the threads are 90% of  
Democrats are the only smart ones  
Republicans are racist and stupid  
Trump is a poopyhead

Do we seriously need to start threads just to say the same thing over and over and over again?

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Unfortunately it is the Dopers spewing the bile, hatred, and ignorance.

Nah…too easy.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2017, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-all-the-trump-threads-diminishing-the-straight-dope-brand/780018/39 "2017-02-17T14:49:51Z")

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There are 66 threads on the front page in GD. The topics of those threads are, in order  
[ul][li]Two stickies about the rules[/li][li]One sticky about Trump’s phrase “alternative facts”[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Other politicians[/li][li]Sanctuary cities[/li][li]Political correctness[/li][li]Deep States[/li][li]Transsexuals[/li][li]the history of the Phillippines[/li][li]Trump’s nominees[/li][li]Abortion[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Abortion[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Brexit[/li][li]Bullying[/li][li]US culture under Trump[/li][li]The race of judges[/li][li]Putin (and Trump)[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Islam[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump’s travel ban[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]The qualifications of the President[/li][li]The Bible in public schools[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Bullying[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Intelligence agencies[/li][li]Terrorism[/li][li]Christians[/li][li]Muslims[/li][li]Abortion[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]The assassination of Lincoln[/li][li]Israel[/li][li]Gerrymandering[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump rolling back government regulations[/li][li]Phonics[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]The EPA[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Islam[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump’s Secretary of Education[/li][li]Elizabeth Warren’s opposition to a Trump nominee[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]High speed rail[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]The military’s powers of dissent[/li][li]Trump[/li][li]Debate styles[/li][li]Debate styles, and[/li][li]Trump[/ul]But apart from that, just normal levels of conversation on a variety of subjects.[/li]  
Regards,  
Shodan

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> Unfortunately it is the Dopers spewing the bile, hatred, and ignorance.

Some bile and hatred is justified, but it has been going on from both sides of the aisle for a while now. There is ignorance out there to fought, and you should point it out where applicable. It’s taking longer than we thought.

You seem to accept that threads concerning the current administration are overwhelmingly filled with falsehoods. I don’t believe that is true. Can you point to specific examples and demonstrate that it’s widespread and a change from normal operating procedures around here?

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