# Are Austrians still considered to be Germans?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 6, 2012, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062 "2012-05-06T13:20:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 15\
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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/121 "2012-05-08T10:13:41Z")

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Your extremely elegant use of words and witty personal insults have convinced me - I am now firmly on your side against the vermin and Zionist scumbags.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/122 "2012-05-08T10:17:26Z")

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The subject seems to be exhibiting accelerated meltdown symptoms. An interesting case, albeit nothing we haven’t seen before.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/123 "2012-05-08T10:20:36Z")

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It’s times like this that the cockles of my heart are warmed by the knowledge the Neo-Nazis are generally limited to posting angry diatribes on anonymous message boards. Meanwhile the Nazis’ attempts at vernichtung not only failed, but in many ways helped lead to renewed vigor in the global Jewish community.

Jews 1, Neos 0.

Plus we’re awesome in bed.

Jews 2, Neos 0.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/124 "2012-05-08T10:23:49Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> It’s times like this that the cockles of my heart are warmed by the knowledge the Neo-Nazis are generally limited to posting angry diatribes on anonymous message boards. Meanwhile the Nazis’ attempts at vernichtung not only failed, but in many ways helped lead to renewed vigor in the global Jewish community.
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> Jews 1, Neos 0.
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> Plus we’re awesome in bed.
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> Jews 2, Neos 0.

Jews are not known for their skills in the bedroom, but Germans are. Sorry, I have to give the sex point to the culture that invented porn jokes.

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**Author:** ![Pitchmeister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pitchmeister/32/3459_2.png) [@Pitchmeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pitchmeister)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/125 "2012-05-08T10:25:45Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Jews are not known for their skills in the bedroom, but Germans are. Sorry, I have to give the sex point to the culture that invented porn jokes.

Score!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/126 "2012-05-08T10:30:00Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Jews are not known for their skills in the bedroom

… among the unaware. 😃

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/127 "2012-05-08T10:30:16Z")

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**GermanicPride** : Your posts are very, very sad, and I hope that someday you realize how wrong you are.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/128 "2012-05-08T11:06:51Z")

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You’re aware that Time’s Man of the Year is not an award given for being a great person right? It’s the choice of a magazine’s editoral staff of the most **influential** person of the previous year. Their choice in 1979 of Khomeyni didn’t indicate approval for the Iranian revolution. The choice of Hitler in 1938 didn’t indicate approval for his politics, even his politics so far at that point. And the choice of Stalin in '39 and '42, … need I spell it out?

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/129 "2012-05-08T11:07:29Z")

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> [@GermanicPride](#):
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> Hitler is used as a punch bag in the media, history is written by the winners you cannot deny this - he cannot defend himself so the Zionists love to push propaganda about him around, he has been dead for decades now and still gets more media attention then some celebs out there because it’s easier to hate him than like him because of post-1945 the bullshit spread about him.

Gosh, and your play acting at being hurt for being called out as a holocaust denier was almost believeable. Oh wait, no, the opposite of that.

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> You clearly don’t like the truth and now are crying because I’m challenging you then tell me to go to Stormfront, nice logic there.

You’re not challanging me or anyone else here skippy, and you wouldn’t know truth if it crawled up your ass and died. Go back to Stormfront to be with the other Nazis. And for our home readers, I’m not calling him a Nazi because it’s what I think he is, [he self identifies himself as a Nazi](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15042816&posted=1#post15042816):

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> I’m proud to be a National Socialist and my Germanic heritage, there is no shame in it - don’t believe everything you are told my dear.

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> You’re only saying go to Germany and say it because you know it’s illegal so please answer me this

Ever wonder why holocaust denial or glorifying the NSDAP is a criminal act in Germany?

Oh, and just because I know it’ll annoy you: Germany has lost every war it fought. Prove me wrong, and no, 1871 was Prussia, not Germany.

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**Author:** ![Donnerwetter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@Donnerwetter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Donnerwetter)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/130 "2012-05-08T11:21:03Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Oh, and just because I know it’ll annoy you: Germany has lost every war it fought. Prove me wrong, and no, 1871 was Prussia, not Germany.

That is actually not accurate (on more than one level), but I don’t think this thread is the right place do discuss the topic. 😉

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/131 "2012-05-08T11:21:20Z")

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> [@GermanicPride](#):
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> Hitler does get a lot of unnecessary bashing - he is one of the most understood individuals who has ever lived.

The bashing is necessary precisely because there are a few that do not understand him, yourself included.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/132 "2012-05-08T11:40:04Z")

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> [@GermanicPride](#):
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> You cannot change facts, ethnicity is your ancestry…

This is one of the more ignorant _original_ statements I’ve seen in a while. (I’m not counting all the rest of GP’s _rehashed_ ignorance.)

GP clearly has no concept of how human societies work, how genetics works, how anything works.

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**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/133 "2012-05-08T11:48:17Z")

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> [@GermanicPride](#):
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> Auschwitz is not in Germany it is in Poland do you not mean German occupied areas?

No, Poland did not exist anymore when genocide was occurring at Auschwitz. As I told you earlier when you were trying to duck and weave around the bullshit that Hitler only wanted the Danzig corridor returned and tried to justify it with lies that Germans were being massacred in Danzig, Germany incorporated the half of Poland it got when it carved it up with the USSR [as part of the Greater German Riech](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/NS_administrative_Gliederung_1944.png). So as far as the Nazis running the death camps were concerned, they considered it to be Germany.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/134 "2012-05-08T11:52:57Z")

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> [@Dissonance](#):
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> Go back to Stormfront to be with the other Nazis. And for our home readers, I’m not calling him a Nazi because it’s what I think he is, [he self identifies himself as a Nazi](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=15042816&posted=1#post15042816):

[nitpick] He may self identify as someone in possession of the facts, too, that doesn’t make it so. He’s not a Nazi. The civilized world crushed the Nazis and hanged their leadership. He’s a Neo-Nazi [/nitpick]

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-austrians-still-considered-to-be-germans/621062/135 "2012-05-08T13:04:39Z")

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I’ve seen enough. Nazis lose again - I’m closing this one.

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