# Are Deaths Like Corey Montieth's Common

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 19, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958 "2013-07-19T17:33:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958/41 "2013-07-20T02:00:33Z")

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> [@HelterSkelter](#):
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> **So it’s well known among opiate/heroine addicts that your tolerance will be far lower upon leaving treatment.** I don’t believe he was being reckless. He made **a far too common mistake of using the same amount of the drug that he was used to prior to his detox.**

If it’s so well known among addicts that their tolerance will be significantly lower after leaving rehab, why is it so common for them to behave as if they _didn’t_ know? This is what I’ve never understood. (my bolding)

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**Author:** ![Schism](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Schism](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schism)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958/42 "2013-07-20T02:11:47Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> why is it so common for them to behave as if they _didn’t_ know? (my bolding)

I don’t think people realize just how low their tolerance can get. Also, junkies who have used for a long time, in the back of their minds, think they can handle any dose.

Sadly, on this subject I am an expert.

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**Author:** ![Schism](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@Schism](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schism)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958/43 "2013-07-20T02:28:11Z")

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Let me amend that. There are addicts who know something about biology and how substances affect their bodies. There are addicts who are morons. The morons tend to die off more and the smart ones occasionally fuck up. Don’t know which one this actor guy was.

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**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/are-deaths-like-corey-montieths-common/663958/44 "2013-07-20T04:36:38Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> If I want a half ounce of weed, I contact one of a couple people I know. I wait anywhere from a day to a week to hear back. When I hear back I’m told anything from “come over” to “maybe in a week or two”.☹
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> If I wanted heroin I could drive to an area in a nearby city and buy what I wanted.☹
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> It’s all about easy access.

This is why it makes so goddam much sense for governments/authorities to\* support\*, not oppose, making marijuana easy, (relatively) cheap, safe, and quasi-legal to purchase and use.

As I understand it this issue was a big part of the Netherlands establishing decriminalization and cannabis coffeeshops starting in the 1970’s. The idea was: if you make it easy and acceptable for people to obtain cannabis then they’d never find themselves in situations where street pushers who were temporarily out of weed would push (ha!) the customer to buy heroin or other hard drugs instead.

Very sensible.

Of course in this country (USA), the “party line” is there’s no difference between hard and soft drugs. Here, they are\* all\* considered hard drugs and hence eeeeeevil and deadly. (Except, of course, if they are named alcohol or tobacco, which means they’re perfectly fine).

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